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Dana1
Seriously?? You've been together for the past 10-12 years so assumed you were a couple.
Dana1,
We have not been together for 10-12 years, another false assumption on your part. And if you notice, I used the word "We". I also just used the word "I" because I WROTE THIS. We didnt write this. I am me, Lisa is herself. When I speak for me or she speaks for her, we both use "I" - when we are talking about both of us, then we use the word "we".
This should not be a hard concept to grasp...
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I have been coming to Jamaica a long time, but I am fairly new to this board in terms of posting. I have posted over on another board for a long time. First, let me say that I appreciate everyone being so welcoming. I have always been a reader of this board and have gain tons of useful information from it. So, thank you to everyone who shares. I also read the Gleaner almost daily just to stay up on things to make myself more aware, when I am on island.
I find Kahuna's sharing of his experience to be extremely helpful. We all love Jamaica or we would not be active on this board. We all want tourism to continue there to help the good people of Jamaica. I think it is important to consider that the worldwide economic downturn has gone on now for many years. The people of Jamaica are experiencing higher and higher taxes while seeing the value of their currency continue to decline. It's an understatement to say that it is hard times for them. Anytime you have this type of economic situation, you are going to see crime increase as people become more desperate. I'm not excusing it, I'm just saying that it's normal.
I thank Kahuna for reminding me not to be naive or to have on my rose-colored glasses, when it comes to a place I love so dearly. It is important and helpful to me to be reminded that I need to be aware and vigilant about my safety. We have all at some time or another while vacationing become lax in doing the things that we know we need to do. Thanks for reminding me that it is not in my best interest to get too comfortable.
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Rob
Dana1,
We have not been together for 10-12 years, another false assumption on your part. And if you notice, I used the word "We". I also just used the word "I" because I WROTE THIS. We didnt write this. I am me, Lisa is herself. When I speak for me or she speaks for her, we both use "I" - when we are talking about both of us, then we use the word "we".
This should not be a hard concept to grasp...
Was there really a need to be so condescending?!?! Maybe I'm off a couple years on how long you've been together. As for the "I" vs. "we"...most couples are an entity and refer to themselves as such but guess not in your relationship. Totally irrelevant to my original post but thanks for clarifying your status!
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The Butler did it in the library with the candlestick.
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can we all just apologize, hold hands and sing a round of kumbaya!
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Oncedeported
can we all just apologize, hold hands and sing a round of kumbaya!
I was wondering when someone was going to say something like that.....LOL
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Lax1724
Hummmmmmm, where is Leslie Chow when we need him (her?).
Ahhh Leslie Chow:p
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Hey... I use I when talking about me and we when i am talking about something that my other is included in... and we've been together a solid for ten years almost eleven...
And if I was in Rob's position I wouldn't post things pertaining to my other either ... i'd only speak for myself... She has an account if she wants to put her business out there thats her decision and I'm sure Rob wouldn't want to over step those kind of personal boundaries... IMO this is causing too much of a stir... Yes it was horrible and unimaginable to most but why fight with others for no apparent reason besides fighting... Oh yeah... I don't wanna argue with any of you either... this is just my speculation
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In 1980, yes 1980. We were robbed in our hotel room. Security caught the guy and turned him over to the police. They beat him to a pulp and showed him to us before they took him away. Went to court in Sav and saw him get 10 years hard labor. What does a thief get today ? Probably a lot less. Still love it here, it can happen anywhere.
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Hopefully a lot less. 10 years is a hard sentence for stealing. They need to stop it, but not go down the same road as the U.S. choose. Locking up such a large percentage of your young men doesn't help either.
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Oncedeported
Hopefully a lot less. 10 years is a hard sentence for stealing. They need to stop it, but not go down the same road as the U.S. choose. Locking up such a large percentage of your young men doesn't help either.
I think I understand your feelings about locking people up for a long time for a petty crime like stealing..but.. I don't understand why punishing people for a crime that no one forced them to commit is such a bad thing either.
I don't suffer easily a person that steals or lies. Lying (like stretching the truth or sparing someone's feelings) is a slap on the wrist type of offense and (I suppose) stealing to feed your family etc. would probably fall into that category... but... to rob someone for personal enrichment is beyond the pall in my opinion.
As I said before, I live most of the year in rural Jamaica where vigilante justice provides a sort of deterrent for praedial larcenies like livestock stealing and ripping off a farmer's crop. Does beating, chopping or shooting them stop the crimes from happening? Probably a little but people don't plan on getting caught either. I would venture a guess that those perpetrators won't do it again and getting caught and incarcerated for a sizable amount of time will probably give a similar result.
As I always say.. "locks are made to keep your friends honest" because if a person wants to rob you, a lock won't stop them either. I live in a town that is mostly crime free but we still lock the doors at night as well.
Most of the people here on this board have no clue on what it is like to actually live in Jamaica. I think Rob would attest to that statement. Talking bravado on what they would do if they lived here is pure "eediat" talk. I think taking precautions like locking doors, not carrying large amounts of money or bling and a certain amount of wariness gives one a certain amount of security but... "bad tings agwann" too.
You can't live your life always looking over your shoulder.
Peace and Guidance
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When I grew up in the projects in the ghetto we would take the chain off our bike and leave it there. When the thief got on to ride away?????? BAM......
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This message is to Kahuna3. I don't know what to say about the "incident", other than it was unfortunate, and it has been talked about a lot. I finally put two and two together, I'm a little slow maybe. I'd like to forward you a personal story about your book "Walk Good". My wife and I were invited to a wedding on the beach in January 2006 in Negril. There were 48 people there for the event, relatives friends etc. Pretty big deal. We had a blast and were "hooked"! Before we went on that trip, my friend Steve [who has been to Negril like 27 times or so, and never, not once done A.I.} lent me your book to read. I was "hooked" on your book, and had to have my own copy, so off to the cyperspace of Amazon, and bought my own copy. I have taken the book with me for 5 or 6 Negril trips now, and have read it that many times!. One time, I left the book on a lounger chair and we went for a beach walk, and lo and behold, while we were gone, it rained for a bout a half hour, and when we got back, the book was totally drenched! I was kinda devastated, as I had kept a daily journal for the last 5 or 6 years in the back of the conveniently placed blank half a dozen pages in the back of the book. And the ink had run in many places, almost couldn't read it anymore. So, we went back to the room and tried to dry out the book with a hair dryer, cause the pages had stuck together so bad, Then after this process of the hair dryer, the book puffed up like a puffer fish! Tried to do my best of salvaging the book. When we got home, I ordered another copy of the book. {and since then I lent it out to somebody, and can't remember who?} I do have one comment to make about the proofreading though. On page 155, I do believe it was Robert DeNiro, who said "Are you talking to me?" And not Al Pacino. I could be wrong, but just off the top of my memory bank.....No biggie, as the book is fantastic and a must read for anyone coming to Negril, or anyone who has been to Negril, and is not aware of the book. So, let's forward to Feb. 2014. My wife and I will doing our 11th Negril trip. Soon come! We have quite a few Jamaican friends now, and slowly meeting boardies. It's a great experience, this great land of sunsets, sand, great people etc. {although I've had a couple unpleasant occurances as well} So, there ya go, I wanted to relay to you about my favorite read about Negril. Would like to meet you personally sometime. We are friends with the famous Cherrynorth49 and Sunshine from Canada! They like to come down to Fargo for "good" deals shopping!!?? Be positive mon' time has a way of taking care of things. Respect, Rock'n'Roll Farmer
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I just finished reading the book this weekend and loved it! I've also downloaded Roland's other two books offered online. I sent Roland a PM thanking him for the book. His love of Jamaica comes through in his writing. I'm so glad I read it before I visit and know that it will definitely be read again.
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Fred Stripe
The Butler did it in the library with the candlestick.
I thought it was Colonel Mustard with the rope??!.
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Monday morning quarterback: Had Roland simply yelled out at the intruder when he first spotted him outside, the thief probably would have ran away without ever entering dwelling.
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Coulda, shoulda, woulda....it's easy to say what should have been done, if you aren't the person who was in the situation. When you have fear and adrenaline running through you and are in the moment, things are always different. It's also one of those things that you look back on and say that "I should have done this or that differently" You can't go back in time and change things, you just chalk it up as a lesson learned and move on.
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You people all sound like you are still I high school. Lame!!!
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No, I'm a drop out....that's why I don't post..
