Wowzers! Thanks for clearing that up San Fran Janet, I feel better already!
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Wowzers! Thanks for clearing that up San Fran Janet, I feel better already!
I have stayed at the Beach Club Condos for eleven years and have never had a problem. I am diligent about locking up, but perhaps I've been lucky. I'll never know but will continue to lock in every conceivable manner.
Well San Fran - THANK YOU you for bringing forth the truth. I kept alluding to the fact that I knew the other side and was giving her every opportunity to provide all the details yet she did not.
This comment is a problem....It might be over for you especially now that the real truth has been uncovered but 1700+ people have viewed this post and who knows if those same 1700+ will come back and see what the real deal is. Do you have any idea what false alarms can do to a small property? By no means am I belittling the fact that you got robbed but when you lay down with puppies, you wake up with fleas!Quote:
Originally Posted by Christine
Now I know why Rob keep this thread open, the truth will come for sure thanks. I stay at NBCC last june and love my stay.
ya but... would you love your stay if U got skinned..
What???????????Quote:
Originally Posted by westcoast
OOHHH! And I forgot.....:eek:
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You also failed to mention that your Jamaican boyfriend was staying with you. It is possible that your boyfriend did this, or that he set it up, or that it was an actual break-in.
San Fran Janet and others,Quote:
Originally Posted by San Fran Janet
I will clear things here now !
I did not admit that the door was unlocked. If i did it's a misunderstanding. I'm french and don't speak english properly. The door had the wood stick fixed there. I did say that the lock was broken so i cannot lock this one.
I am sorry if you feel this report is disturbing. Yes my friend was there, i did not mention him because honestly i thought that he could be "accused" here or whatever for this event. People tend to think that because Jamaicans hang out with tourists that they are thiefs or will do bad things to tourists (hope that i'm being well understood here in my statement). He his not a stranger to me and the way he acted about it when it happened and the days after i really doubt it could be him. So, I believe that not because he his Jamaican he has something to do with it. They are not all bad. But it could happen you are right.
Do you really think that after talking to someone at the hotel that comes here on the boared i will intentionnally write things that are not good or saying lies without knowing it will come out ? I'm not stupid, i just have a hard time with my english.
When i wrote "it's over now" what i meant is that i am back home and i want to pass over the event and feel less upset about it. I still have to deal with the trouble it's giving me.
You are right when you say that my diabetic testing machine came back. The day after the event, the police came by to see me, it was planned that way because he wanted to give me the police report. I was out for breakfast. So when I came back, the office advised me of that and they called the police to see if possible for them to come back. They said yes, so i waited 45 minutes to the front desk and they never came. I went to the station. I met the policeman and he gave me the report and when i was to leave, he showed me the testing maching asking if it was mine. I said oh yes it is mine. I was happy and surprised. He told that someone had brought it back. I tought it was weird but still happy to have it back.
I did state that Mrs Gaynair was cool, i am not accusing here of anything only the security that i have doubts, i wrote that down priviously but not accusing anyone. I don't have proof of anything.
I am sorry about the confusion I may have done here on the board, and feel very bad now. So know i will not post anyting more from now. I am no good in english and it can be confusing if i don't write properly or everything. I know it's not an excuse, but it's a lesson for me that i will only read now. I just wanted to state an event and aware people, i really did honestly !
I apologize and if i made some mistakes i can assume.
thank you.
Christine your english is fine I think perhaps the one big mistake you may have made here was to know a lock was broken and still stayed in the room.
Personally I would have reported that within the first 5 minutes of seeing it.
I do not pay to sleep somewhere that I cannot lock a door at night.
Christine,
Thanks for sharing your experience! We will be at NBCC as of next week and be more alert now then we would have been otherwise. Only the thief knows what exactly happened... We live and learn. Sorry you had to go through such an experience, hope you will soon be able to leave all this behind and then enjoy your next stay in Jamaica!
Take care,
Anke
Maybe your trip insurance will compensate you?
Not sure who they will find at fault though the hotel for not providing adequate door lock or you for not locking it.But if it was broken and you never noticed what then?
Thank you, San Fran Janet for coming here & posting the rest of the story. It certainly clarifies things when someone who was there at the time provides more thorough, complete information. We all know when we stay at a property & something like this takes place, guests talk w/ one another.
Again, Christine, I'm sorry this happened to you. However, your credibility has been damaged - not by you lack of English skills which, BTW, are fine - but by your decision to leave out significant, important details. Being honest means not leaving out facts. Not using the wooden stick, not locking the door... pretty crucial facts to alter. Although your friend may be very honorable, this is not always the case. I've known of more than one occasion when it's been a guest of a guest who is has been the thief.
I had a nagging feeling of discomfort from the start about your story because I know Mrs. Gaynair does not place a single woman traveling solo on the ground floor. My UK friend has a friend stay w/ her & that - plus a medical condition - is why she has a ground floor unit. Leaving out the recovery of your testing unit was an unnecessary omission.
I can only hope that people who read your incomplete report will come back to read the rest of the story.
Who returned the testing machine?
I believe Christine said "she did use the wooden stick" - more than once, actually- so there is evidence of people's interpertations of what they have just read.
Anyways..... Christine - Thanks for posting - obviously there have been a number of cases of robberies in "Negril" and elsewhere and you can't be too careful - your posting reminds the rest of us not to become too relaxed about our safety and valuables, at any time.
i think it should be pointed out that Ms. Gaynair is among the most respected -- and consistently praised -- hoteliers in Negril ....
[QUOTE=irie always;19415]I believe Christine said "she did use the wooden stick" - more than once, actually- so there is evidence of people's interpertations of what they have just read.QUOTE]
You're correct. She did post that here on the board. However, when it happened, she told other hotel guests she fell asleep & did not/forgot to use the wooden stick. It's not an interpretation. It's the difference of how she reported the event at the time & what she's now reporting here on the board.
Regardless of the board version of the story vs the story she told guests at the time, the lesson to be learned is to be vigilant whenever you are on vacation. In a way, I guess I was lucky to have been close to a break in early on in my visits to Negril. Because of that I have always been very careful, always made sure my doors were securely locked, haven't left windows open or doors cracked, carried a lock, use my pacsafe, etc.
"i think it should be pointed out that Ms. Gaynair is among the most respected -- and consistently praised -- hoteliers in Negril ...."
I agree. All the more reason for the original, complete story to be told.
I am glad the story was told--and regardless of whether she used the stick or not and whether she had a JA friend with her or not--it is a terrible thing to have items stolen, no matter how it happens. I have stayed at NBCC 6 times and a couple of times I had people pounding on my door late at night and did not feel safe. Jean is lovely, and always had me in an upstairs room--but those sliding doors to the patio/veranda are very shaky security, even with the wooden stick.
It is a good reminder to be security-minded no matter where you stay. And yes, be careful because some island friends do not have your best interests at heart.
Am I the only one that thinks that it is NOT OK for a hotel to compensate a broken door lock with a wooden stick? If a lock is broken fix it, and don't rent out the room until it is fixed. Period.
Finally...Finally...Finally....some good ol fashioned common sense!!!!! Thank you Rastagal. I was *wondering* how long it would take! lawd have mercy....I mean>>> a wooden stick????
RG...I agree that a lock should be fixed (most of us would never stay in the room knowing the lock needs fixing)...but at this point in the story....who knows what was really going on or what really happened!!
Sadly & manipulatively pertinent details were left out of the original post & following posts....no one will ever really know the truth!
I had the same experience at Rooms on the Beach. Patio door (ground floor) had two locks, and the one we were not using was left open. I wonder if the maid unlocked it. Same story, someone in the room while we were sleeping, very unsettling. We are going back to Negril in February and will be extra careful.
Christine:
I am so sorry to hear something that alarmed you ocurred. I am going to touch on the ever avoided subject of Jamaican man friends. To you he may appear completely honest and heartwarming because when you are there for short times he is with you. I can not express to you how much I fully understand this. Jamaican man friends very regularly put people in a bad spot. I think I am who advised you to go to NBCC and I will advise everyone still now after hearing this. What i will advise against while solely your business is the belief that men in Jamaica that you have known for a total of weeks in person are to be trusted with your property and the belief that any acts that follow mean they are not affiliated. In Negril and Jamaica in general it is easy for women to find jamaican men who treat them well and make them feel gorgeous this is an industry in Jamaica.
In reference to negril beach club i knew of the previous robberies before staying there however I myself was robbed at both RIU properties in Negril when staying there and I am related to management and they had entered right through front door so it can happen anywhere.At NBCC two trips ago my door remained wide open with safe open and large amounts of contents in the open safe while I was unaware next door from around midnight to 4am, just so there is no leaving out facts, I did have a man sleeping in my room at the time that both thought the other had locked the door, but I hardly think that would deter theives if they are breaking in rooms with sleeping people. I never noticed these things when I returned and at 5am my door had a knock, my X husband went to the door to see who it was and it was the hotel security that had found my key lying outside. He would have returned it earlier had he not been busy with a woman who's room had been robbed while she was out with a man friend she had invited over earlier in the week. The thief was never found to my knowledge.
While this was a huge wake up call for me about my own security it led me further to my belief that NBCC is as safe as the others.
Again Christine I am sorry this happened but the bottom line is NBCC is highly regarded by repeat travelers, use Jamaican men for your benefit for the time period you are there just as they are you and know it is just that do not trust anyone you would not at home with the same real time spent in person together.
In addition, Jean Gaynair was under no contract to give you anything, that is the responsibility of trip insurance not many hotels anywhere would do that. I have been robbed in Cozumel, Ocho Rios, and Negril and it has never been the responsibilty of hotels for reimbursement.
OOh Mrs Gaynair has placed a single solo female on the ground floor before...One of my friends stayed there back in March caushe did not want to stay where we stayed and YES she was on the ground floor..Sooo please DO NOT say this does not happen cause it does!!!
yes, it does happen but did this person tell Mrs. Gaynair that she was solo and didn't want the first floor? I'm traveling solo on Wed and she has told me she would move me to a higher level but I told her I wanted to stay on the ground floor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sexybutterflyatl
The wood stick for the patio door is used in addition to the patio lock - it;s the same thing as the plastic rod that most patio doors in the US have. I'm sure had the broken lock been brought to the attention of management, it would have been fixed. Thanks to Christine telling her story, I plan to check my locks upon checking in.
Christine's boyfriend could very well be a decent man who had no role in this robbery BUT the party she had in her unit the night before most likely brought people that she did not know. It gave those people ample opportunity to case her unit and then come back to take what they want. An alcohol induced sleep would have prevented most people to wake during a robbery.
I do hope that Christine does comes back to negril.com even if it's not to post in this thread.
Yes, this is very curious. First, why would a thief want to return the tester? Second, why would a thief take his/her stolen goods to the police? A thief with a conscience? If a thief can't sell/use what they stole, I would think they would throw it away....and if someone found the abandoned tester, would they go to the trouble of bringing it to the police?Quote:
Originally Posted by CarrieBean
Yesss she knew she ws traveling alone before she got there..She moved her after the first two days the point I was making here that this does happen she has placed single solo travelers on the ground level..Ms Jean is a very very nicr ladyi know there are SEVERAL peoplw that are loyal to nbcc we are all loyal to the place we hv found in negrill to stay at that has become or second home..like shelly k stated it can happen at any hotel
Jamerican71 and some others on this tread,Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamerican71
I said that i will not come to write down here again. But now enough is enough !!!
Where did you get that info that I had a party the night before ? That we could have gone to bed after we have drank ? I don't remember writing this down. What right do you have to post these things on here ? You are going to far !
First, this was not a party, is was a simple dinner with a family of 3 people. A couple and there daughter of 9 yo. Not JAMAICAN people, even if it were Jamaican people it’s nobody’s business. This is my private things, what right do you have to assume that those people could have come back to steel me ? Oh wowww ! You don’t even know them neither the gal who was there same time of me. She should write down here on the board instead of gossiping to you/others instead of pm. She wasn’t invited to the dinner, nor she knows how much we could have taken alcohol.
I’m sick and tired that you and some others on this tread are assuming things that could have or not have happened. With all the posts I’ve read here, it seems that I’m the bad one and the gal Janet something is the one to tell the truth. Who are you guys to judge me like that ? Why you believe more that gal than me ? If someone is honest on this earth, it’s me. You only see bad and if someone writes down what you don’t want to hear, well you judge them.
I’m now asking publicly that Rob stops this tread. He will take the decision. It’s not good and it turned bad.
I did say that I’m assuming my mistakes about it and I was sorry and even though some are not stopping to gossip about it and being negative. They can’t stop the sh**ty things.
Thanks for coming back Christine. I apologize if you think I am making assumptions. I haven't received a single PM from anybody regarding this thread so that is not my source. I also don't know San Fran at all.
You're definitely NOT the bad one, the bad one is the person who stole from you. I'm also not judging you as anybody traveling anywhere can fall prey to being a victim. I simply say, your experience and your post of the theft has certainly opened the eyes of travelers.
I'm obviously loyal to NBCC but I am also of Jamaican heritage and it gets under my skin when I see posts of any kind of crime when reality is that it might not have been so random.
Christine, there will always be those who will try to make it look like the victim's fault. When these things happen, it's up to the property owner/manager to take a close look into how it can be prevented....especially if it's obvious it's coming from within the grounds. I know we sure as heck don't spend all that money on a room just so the staff can help themselves to our things. Not saying this is for sure the case here, but there are plenty of places where it happens.
ETA: I wish you wouldn't ask to have this thread removed. If nobody made these things public, the properties wouldn't have a need to make changes.
Christine,
I am so very sorry you have felt attacked and made to feel your post wasn't honest. You are not the bad person you are in fact the victim. Comments like when you lay down with fleas and the like were simply not call for. Everyone SHOULD feel comfortable posting the good and bad without the fear of being dissected. I for one very much appreciate you posting about your unfortunate experience, so thank you for taking the time and again I am so very sorry you were violated.
Christine,
I am sorry that you have had to deal with the robbery in your room, robberies are far from common in Negril, but they do occur.
I am also sorry that you feel that people have treated you unfair here - but when you choose to make a condemning post like the original one in this thread - that is warning people to not stay at a hotel and hint that the cause for a robbery is the security and management/owners - you are opening yourself up to have responses made that you may not like.
You left out the key facts such as that you invited your Jamaican boyfriend back to your room, that an item that was stolen was returned by the police and the latest revelation that you did indeed have a party in your room. Leaving out these key details cannot allow anyone to be truly aware of any potential issue and it is definitely not fair to the property, security, staff, management and owners. Your original post takes on an air of "getting even" with a property instead of genuinely wanting to inform people of a potential problem. Leaving out these key details does give your credibility a bit of blow.
You state that you didnt want to mention your boyfriend because you thought others might want to suggest that he may have a role to play because he is Jamaican, and that is not fair as you say "they are not all bad." Yet you suggest that the Jamaican security, Jamaican staff, Jamaican management and Jamaican owners may be to blame. It is a bit hard to believe that you didnt want people to think all Jamaicans are bad when you turn around and blame many Jamaicans instead of presenting the real facts of the situation and allowing the readers to make a truly informed decision.
You invited all these comments by making your original post and leaving out many key facts that would have changed the impression that readers would take away from the post, and had Jan not made her post, none of the readers would have known that there was more to the story than you were letting on.
I will choose to close this thread or allow to remain open based upon future comments. It will remain open as your original post was very condemning of a long time popular property and you have not been forthcoming with the facts as to allow people to determine for themselves if there is any potential problem at NBCC.
I don't mind being violated, but I do like to keep hold of my stuff!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by sammyb
I have stayed at NBCC more than once (even though I am not crazy about the place) because of the cheap rates and beautiful beach. So speaking from experience I can say they really need to upgrade the locks on all rooms. On both the patio door and the main door, I've seen busted door frames and very shabby locks.
I also witnessed a couple lying about a robbery before so I know that it happens but it's getting to where every time someone says something bad happened to them in Negril, for tourists sake, it's hinted that maybe they are lying or people insinuate that this person got robbed because of whom she invited into her room - not cool. The reality is that crime is on the rise, just be careful!
www.pacsafe.com
yuck!Quote:
Originally Posted by shellyk
Luvjabad....I don't know what happened as I wasn't there AND I don't believe it's ever right to blame the victim...but....just as you say you've "witnessed a couple lying about robbery"...it's also "not cool" to manipulate the facts by leaving out the details and accusing management/staff of thievery when there is no proof! It's adding more unnecessary victims to the crime!Quote:
Originally Posted by luvjabd
A couple and their 9 year old child. Yeah, sounds like a wild party. And as far as blaming "Jamaican security, Jamaican staff, Jamaican management and Jamaican owners" ...what? If the staff were all Canadian/American/European, what would that change?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob
I understand you have a business to run and need to be faithful to your sponsors, but blaming a victim is never right. I didn't take the original poster as being vindictive at all. You know that I know how it feels to go though something like this.
And as far as everyone saying it can happen anywhere...well no chit sherlock. We don't discuss robberies from elsewhere on a Negril forum.
Hahahaha...thanks for the laugh.Quote:
Originally Posted by gerryg123
I've been visiting Negril every year since 1979, with very few exceptions tourist that take their new Jamaican friend(s) back to their room are around 99.9% sure you will be robbed or worse. I watched the same two sisters get robbed the first night of their stay two years running, all because their hooked back up with the same dude(s) that took them to the show across the road and their buddies cleaned the room out while they were gone. Now without any money or documents force to return home. Christine, consider yourself lucky Mrs. Gaynair offered any compensation, and that you were not injured or worse for such ill throughout move on your part. And that's a nice as I can be on this subject..
Thanks for posting this website - I was looking for it a couple of weeks ago and couldn't remember it.Quote:
Originally Posted by luvjabd