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Here are some pic's from yesterday when they were building the sea anchors to hopefully be used to winch it out to sea...… Today the heavy waves are back so there won't be any Help there...… I'll walk down later and take some more Pic's
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They tried, but the anchors they were using pulled free.Quote:
Originally Posted by Weeboy1
Anchors moved towards shore instead of boat moving towards anchor.
Need stronger anchors, or less resistance.
This morning, moderately large waves.
Boat has turned around and is again bow towards beach.
Cement weights are still on beach.
We're cliff dwellers so pardon my ignorance - are those tourists in a cage? Is the fence to protect from beach walkers? What property is that?
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Originally Posted by kwhizz
Rough seas came in last night...… Walked down to see how the boat made out in the waves...… Turned the boat around and its still buried...…. Talked to some of the people trying to get the boat out and they said they are trying to get a Tugboat from MoBay to help out...….. But they are looking for donations as the Tug Boat wants $20,000 US to come over....
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Lol....its a ***** on the beach. Luckily they give us bread and water.
kwizz thanks for the great photos and updates. Who are those guys in the photos working? the boat owners?? Donations??? 20K for a tugboat?? Does that guarantee he'll get it out of just get a tug from MoBay?? That's what insurance is for. I wouldn't feel obligated to give them monetary help. I know S*** happens but how did they get stuck in the first place!! Too bad. I saw one not make it on Negril Beach in 1980. It was sad to see!! Please keep us posted with pics and report. Thanks
From what I understand the owner is from England and was told in the past his anchor lines were too short which created a too sharp angle down to the Anchors...…… the locals in the pic's are just trying to help the owner...… Probably friends as the owner had been anchored here for a while.....Quote:
Originally Posted by johng
I'm surprised that Gail hasn't turned it into a swim up Bar yet......
Sooooo, what are the salvage laws in Jamaica??
Call in the Rotator.
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ya...see you soon..those guys need help...Quote:
Originally Posted by Bnewb
that thing will be full of sand
kwizz how in heck's name did the beached sailboat do a 180 overnight?? Not assuming you would know but you are there and have watched this first person? That defies physical science. Any idea how big the keel is and how deep its buried in the sand??
Rumlover I believe that International Maritime Salvage Laws take precedence in a situation like this and my understanding is that they are hundreds of years old and fairly complicated. I'm not a lawyer but it seems one is needed in this case?? kwizz don't know how long you're in Negril for but please keep dropping pics and updates if you can?? Thanks
I just know that from one day to the next it reversed directions during the overnight waves...…. The Keel is still on the boat and the three drums you see in the pic's are keeping the boat at an angle to keep the Keel from going deeper...…. Not much happened today except it now appears the lean is greater and water is now getting inside.....
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kwizz Thanks a lot for your updates. This obviously has nothing to do with me I'm just interested from the "what if it were me" point of view. If it were me and glad it's not I'd try and be pumping water out as much as possible while I figure out a plan. That's why I ask about how big the keel is because as we all know the water is pretty shallow off the beach quite a way out. Would it be a simple task to tow it out with the proper boat in conjunction with a heavy machine?? The longer it stays like it is the sooner it will become Treehouse Boat Bar II.
Yes
Treehouse no fence here
Hell to the no
I have cameras just ask not a problem
I love the Lion of Judah flag flying proudly. If I had a boat I'd fly a flag like that and most likely I'd also end up beached!
The day prior, the boat was “floating” when completely heeled over via the weight on the halyard. Keel was free, and boat was bobbing in small waves.Quote:
Originally Posted by johng
The next morning there were much larger waves than “normal”. Not huge, but big enough. They caused the boat to swing around, parallel to the beach, still heeled over, but keel towards shore! Nasty orientation as waves were going over the gunwale. This from a fellow guest at CCLP, who saw this at about 6:30 am.
I’m assuming someone had the presence of mind to swing the boat around into a safer orientation — easiest thing would be to attach something to bow and swing it around.
Today, the forms are off the new cement “anchors”. Boat seems to be a bit higher (more aground) than yesterday.
Thanks Gail! Didn't think it was Treehouse.
Sounds like there my have been a missed opportunity.
Here's a picture of the Sea anchors they made to try and winch the boat back out to deeper water...….. At this point I think Mother Nature is going to be the winner...… Just my opinion... The boat seems to have moved closer to shore or the beach is rebuilding itself with the boat stuck...…. There was probably 20 feet of beach washed away in the storm and it's coming back and it doesn't care about the boat and is filling in around the boat...…. We had a situation like this happen back home years ago and they had a tug boat hook up to the stuck boat and used the prop wash to clear the sand out...…. Don't know if that would work here as the Tug would have to get close enough to shore or the boat for the Prop wash to be effective...….
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kwizz another excellent feat of photo journalism, awesome photos!! Thanks so much for keeping us all updated!! I am not an engineer but considering the shallow beach would a dredge pumping sand out behind the boat while a tug or other capable boat pulls the sailboat through the trench opening the dredge has created to deeper water?? Bottom line is the owner has to get his wallet out and pony up for the proper equipment whatever that might be!! What do I know maybe the sea anchor approach works. Keep us posed if you can. thanks again!!
Fabulous photos kwizz.
Some wind, and more waves today. Not as big as Sunday, but certainly not helping situation.
The have some lifting bags today. Currently, they have one inflated under the bow, and a couple un-inflated on the beach.
Cement anchors are now gone from the beach.
ThePachenas thanks for the updates. From the photos on this thread the beached sailboat looks like a really nice boat. I'm rooting for it's salvage however accomplished!! Please keep the updates coming!!
Forgot to ask you all but has there been any sign of the Jamaican Coast Guard or any other JA govt officials at the site?? Just curious...
Hadn't thought about the destroyer, that would pull it out for sure!
In addition to the sea anchors missing from the Beach and the air bags being installed...… They also have a couple of small pumps on the beach getting ready to try and wash the sand from under the boat...…. Hope it works but...……
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kwhizz great pics and updates. You should do a journal with photos throughout the ordeal?? I too hope that they get it out it just seems that everything is being done piecemeal without a big focus on a major push. I could be wrong on that. The trash pumps look a little substandard to move large amounts of sand but again I'm no expert so presumably whoever is running the job knows best??
Walked down the beach today and the Bow was out towards the sea...…. I asked the guys how they did that and they told me they had a tractor there and hooked a cable to it and spun it around...…. I then asked what the plans were to get the boat out.....they just shrugged their shoulders and said they really didn't know...….. Probably my last report as we are going home tomorrow....Hopefully someone else will continue the thread ……
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kwhizz thanks again for the great reporting, photos and update. Sorry to hear that you have to head back to reality tomorrow but hope that you had a wonderful stay in Negril.
By virtue of the sailboat being turned almost daily it seems that moving it around is possible so one would think that getting it totally free is within reach. I get the feeling from your posts that there isn't a master plan as what to do next. I suppose that as long as it isn't being damaged in any way it can stay where it is until somebody official says otherwise.
Thanks again for keeping us updated on the daily news. " Like sand through the hour glass so are the days in Negril" HaHa!
Please someone of us in Negril at the moment take the ball from kwhizz and keep carrying it downfield!! Thanks
If they can spin it in a circle then the keel is free. Not sure I understand why they can’t tow it out with an adequate tow vessel. Maybe access to an appropriate vessel is part of the problem. Again if they can turn her they are 1/2 way there. So unfortunate!
Yes called them but it’s not in their portfolioQuote:
Originally Posted by johng
Maritine Authority Capt Brady came by to speak with them
Spoke with the boat salvage company in Montego Bay , they can do it for $25,000 as vessel has to come from Montego BayQuote:
Originally Posted by Weeboy1
Ok who is going to start a go fund me page ?