Do they know this stuff sells in Japan for 60.00-100.00 a bag?
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Do they know this stuff sells in Japan for 60.00-100.00 a bag?
obviously i agree with everything about going up into the mountains except re-roasting your coffee? that makes zero sense to me as someone who has some experience as a home roaster and also having roasted a few hundred pounds in the blue mountains- it sounds like a recipe for introducing a charred taste...nobody I know or ever saw roast would think of stopping the roast then starting it again later.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kritter
everything is to taste of course but JBM is a pricey coffee and if you want that vienna or very dark roast flavor profile there is no need to destroy JBM by taking it past second crack. when you roast coffee you will literally hear the coffee cracking as it goes through the roasting cycle.
further to the ultimate enjoyment bit and getting back to a previous poster's query you also want to get yourself a burr grinder, NOT a blade grinder- for the exact reason that you don't want to heat up the beans mechanically. A blade grinder basically chops up the beans and often results in uneven grinding. With a burr, the beans are crushed between metal edged plates so to speak. You get a much more evenly ground coffee bean, which results in a better flavored cup.
For the French Press, you want a fairly coarse grind, so that the coffee doesn't slip past the screen in the press.
another tip I would offer is to put a small dash of salt in your cup. like adding a dash of water to a fine single malt, it will open up the many flavors there are to discover and enjoy in a good brewed cup of JBM.
ps.
roasting coffee also produces a godawful amount of smoke. so if you DO decide to roast your coffee in a skillet at home...well...be warned lol. I know people tend not to read every reply in a thread, which is really annoying but so be it, but I really hope nobody re-roasts their JBM and if they decide to pan roast green beans...they read this and know to expect a shyte ton of smoke.
here is the machine I have been using for YEARS, it's awesome, it gives you the ability to create different roast cycles or profiles- basically that means you can set the temp you want to run for the amount of minutes you want, slowly bringing the beans up to temp then starting to roast them at higher temps is the general rule of thumb. but how you put that cycle together brings out certain nuances in the beans, the various flavors, like the wineyness, the cocoa, the nutty flavours...
anyway here's the machine.
https://www.i-roast.com/
To be clear, when I 're-roast' my beans, I don't put it through a process as extreme as what you're indicating, Monk.....have never generated any smoke. I merely put them in a hot skillet for a minute or two before grinding them ... and have been doing that for years with JBM coffee. Makes a notable improvement .......
Yes, ventilation is very important when roasting. There is a lot of caffeine in that smoke. You can give yourself quite an unpleasant buzz breathing it.
hey kritter, the important thing is you enjoy it. everything else is just conversation lol. i'm a bit of a fanatic. some people improve their coffee with rum, or dip their cigars in cognac. guess i'm more of a purist jerk when it comes to that stuff lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kritter
sounds like from what you are saying you enjoy the roast in a coffee, not so important to you are what are called the origin flavors, which can be delicate.
how do you grind/brew? have you ever taste tested other coffees using your warm up method?
Where do I locate Thunder?
and it takes forever to get rid of the smell lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ras Walleye
I have tested other coffees using my 'warm up' method .... but only if I'm not satisfied with the flavor straight out of the package. I'm picky about my coffee, but not a 'purist jerk' like you Monk (LOL). I can't stand the flavored coffees, get irritated when someone uses my coffee pot for that sh** (can never get the smell out). I would never put rum in my coffee ... mainly because I like my coffee black & unadulterated, but also because I only buy the expensive rum ..... and I only drink that straight & unadulterated, too :)Quote:
Originally Posted by monk
You asked how I prepare my coffee: Depends on where I am - I have a burr grinder at home, but have a blade grinder in my motorhome, and an old-fashioned, manual crank grinder at my cabin. And depending on where I am and what I have access to, I either prepare it as drip, in my Italian coffee maker, in my French press, in my old-fashioned, stove-top percolator (at the cabin), or other. When I lived in JM, I didn't have a coffee maker, so I did it the way the ladies on the B Mtn showed me ...... add coffee grounds to a pan of water, steep sufficiently, strain & serve. I'm a hopeless addict .... have to have it every morning .... and I do enjoy it!!!
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Originally Posted by k4adams
Thunder is behind Miss Sonia's-
between Alfreds & Roots- morass side beach road
Just ask someone at Miss Sonia's ;)
who by the way, is an AWESOME cook, very old school, granny recipes in use, and herself is an icon of negril going back to the early days when she would walk to negril from grange hill with fruit and her baby.Quote:
Originally Posted by dave
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I hear you on that. Life is too short for the cheap stuff lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kritter
i like those old school hand cranks!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kritter
Just got back from seeing Thunder who cut me a great deal on some beans. He says he has a bunch of beans to move right now because the independent farmers in the blue mountains just got flattened by Sandy and they need cash to rebuild infrastructure. so stop by and chat with a wise and funny man and score some of the worlds best coffee and help out the coffee farmers in a tough time.
Can anyone tell me if Big Roy is currently in Negril? I had heard he might have gone foreign.
Also does anyone know his current price or what Thunder's current price is?
Thanks and blessings...
Ed
The statement above about the farmers in the Blue Mountains has me wondering about the near future of coffee. Will this effect supplies and prices over the next few months?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparky
Just found out Standing Spring Plantation has a website now, so you can get the good stuff straight from the source. Just Google them and you'll find it.
So I get that sense that buying my cup of coffee at the corner gas station where I fuel up is not the way to go.
Thunder is a wonderful man and you can watch him roasting if you like. He will explain the whole process to you which is fascinating.Quote:
Originally Posted by BR Mon
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If you want to purchase high quality coffee beans from the Jamaican Blue Mountains, then go with a company that has an established connection with the growers and will roast the beans after you order them. See...
http://www.dauphinkaffee.com/jamaica...eaberry-coffee
http://www.martinezfinecoffees.com/s...in-coffee.html
http://barniescoffeekitchen.com/prod...le-bean-coffee
If you want a souvenir or don't want to spend $$$ on coffee beans, then the local negril suppliers are great.
Happy trails.
Thunder buys Blue Mountain beans directly from the growers. He makes the trip several times a year - just saying.
Sweet Irie Sue,
No doubt the locals will buy from locals. Selling to tourists is different than selling coffee at top dollar where if you do not get quality then you go elsewhere. These suppliers have been in business for decades. Thunder could source the same beans from the online sites I posted earlier, but did you see the picture of his roasting method? Another reminder that this is the third world and perhaps that is the attraction to most of the boardies - a simpler yet fulfilling way of life. Let taste be the guide, but we our talking apples & oranges...
Happy trails.
See the pictures? I took them and they are my beans too - LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by wha gwan
At the Hi Lo, the people that work there told us Jablum was the best, so we bought some beans, and they are really good.
Thunder's coffee is the best I have had. Conquering Lion is not nearly as good. 451-7099-Barbara lives with Thunder. He will roast fresh for you prior to your departure if you call him ahead of time.
We are bringing a coffee press on our upcoming trip (we love pressed coffee in the morning and have a plastic press for travel) and had planned to bring coarse ground coffee as well. The ground coffee we have bought in Negril previously is too fine for a press. I wonder if Big Roy can grind his coffee for use in a press. Anyone know how to reach him? We will be staying at Crystal Waters from 2/22 to 3/3.
to each his own....enjoy the wonder that is JBM coffee as often as possible. I like to add some Sangsters rum cream to my coffee, but will ONLY do it to the blue mountain stuff if there's some left in the pot vs. pouring it out....Now, when I see the pics of folks pouring the banana rum cream(which to me tastes like banana Now & Laters candy) in $30/lb coffee...I must say, it stings just a little...just a quirk of mine, I know a lot of folks get bent when they see certain condiments on hot dogs or burgers that they consider sacreligious...
I have to say Thunder has the best coffee I've had. Even down in Treasure Beach, Thunder is known and that was the coffee we drank while at on of our guest house stays while there.
One year we brought back green coffee beans. I hear that is illegal but we didn't know that at the time and neither did anyone else. We roasted them ourselves at home (outside cause they stink and smoke). GREAT coffee.
Does anyone know if Thunder has phone? I am at Catch and can't reach Big Roy.:-)
Just brought back pounds of Standing Springs Plantation coffee beans in one pound valved bags from Yellow Bird. I let them know two days before going home,15$ a pound. Shared it with many back home and they can't get enough, very good
Re: Buying coffee to bring home?
Thunder's coffee is the best I have had. Conquering Lion is not nearly as good. 451-7099-Barbara lives with Thunder. He will roast fresh for you prior to your departure if you call him ahead of time.
negrilmaven
This was copy & past from a post about 4 above yours. I used it last month to arrainge for some coffee.