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I read the article attached in the first post. Have you?... agree that the info is not very good. I'm not googling articles about it in my free time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cudjoe
I am well aware that Beaches and Sandals are both part of the same company.
I know tis is a serious subject, however, it seems that, as usual, we have taken the route that people are no longer required to take responsibility for their actions.
The incident at Riu involved an armed man entering thru a balcony door. Not sure what action they did wrong. According to the article they disarmed and shot him. The attack by the Cuban football players involved a lady going to the bathroom and they attacked her in there. Not sure what actions got her chosen to be gang raped in a woman's bathroom. And the two young women at Beaches were shmoozed and groomed by three slick talking boys who lured then into the laundry room. Nothing better than blaming the victims.Quote:
Originally Posted by LivinInThe603
From what I read they were teenage girls & the rapists asked them to come see something in the laundry & then raped them. They were teenage girls not fully functioning adults so therefore not responsible. Teenage girls do not always make good judgement calls. Stop blaming the victim!
At what age are people responsible for their own actions? 17 isn't enough to know something is wrong?Quote:
Originally Posted by SVW
You make my point. People, in general, do not always make good judgement calls... and sometimes bad things happen as a result. Did those girl have to go into the laundry room? No. Could they have overreacted and ran away screaming. Yes. I would rather be embarrassed for overreacting than crushed for falling victim. No one deserves for bad things to happen to them, but what would I expect if I went with some random guys into a creepy, out of the way room at a hotel in a foreign country? I'd expect bad things, 17 or 40 years of age. I'm not blaming the victim. I'm blaming everyone involved. Clearly, people are uninformed and blindly participating in vacation destinations in which they have no knowledge of... the warnings are there for a reason.
I'm sorry 603 if I made this sound like I was attacking you. I really wasn't, just addressing the thing in general. I think back to how "stupid" I sometimes was at 17 & if a guy said to me (especially if he was a cute one) come here I want to show you something I might have been gullible enough to go see what it was. 17 year olds are probably a lot smarter today but I was 17 a million years ago & pretty trusting. But anyway, I meant no disrespect. Just a sad situation all around that could happen anywhere not just Jamaica.
No matter the age or situation, there is abosolutly NO EXCUSE FOR RAPE!!! Yes the girls could’ve made better decisions to help keep themselves safe, but they thought they were inside the walls of the resort. No fault at all should fall on the victims. It’s appalling that anyone would even put partial blame on them.
I understand the resorts, (especially in the most recent case at the Riu Reggae) should have better hiring practises but how does a hotel take responsibility for the horrible attack by the Cuban men?
And note...most of the resorts do have detailed hiring practises including requiring police records etc.
The overall opinion/question is why did theses practises fail or weren't implemented at the Riu?
enjoying reading how much everyone enjoys and spends time in our beloved Jamaica......
mi try to be a great ambassador and spread the word to everyone on how much mi enjoy Jamaica...
and how they should enjoy everything Jamaica has to offer.....
you can't possibly do everything in one vacation...lol
mi also tell everyone to be aware of the surroundings and don't do anything stupid when in Jamaica.......
using common sense to start with and thinking you know everything about Jamaica can get you in trouble..
mi been going to Jamaica since '82 and stay here for months at a time and everyday in Jamaica mi learn sumthin new......
mi ride mi red bicycle around Negril which isn't the smartest thing to do with all the maniacs on the road....
and mi snorkel every morning with the barracudas and this summer mi actually came face to face with a shark....
so wi all live our lives the way wi want.......nothing wrong with that.......
mi will just say that you should be very careful when you are in Jamaica......
Jamaican local police lack the financial resources and man power to respond quickly to incidents
always keep a low profile.....be aware of your surroundings....avoid secluded spots...
and never ever resist a robbery.....if you do it's a good way not to make it home safely
the USA government says to avoid going out at night and using public transportation but think that's over doing it...
it's not Kansas anymore like years past .......walk good......respect
Cool Runnings, Marko
Just to clarify, the US government does not warn to avoid going out at night, they suggest not walking at night.
And the US advisory doesn't mean to avoid using public transportation, they warn against using the public buses that operate in Kingston and somewhat in MoBay. There are no public buses that operate in Negril that the US government is advising not to use.
I think you need to read all of the article again, carefully. All of that info can easily be gleaned from what has been published, and pretty clearly at that. I'm offended on behalf of those girls for your responses here. Seriously. I think you need to step back and rethink your stance here.Quote:
Originally Posted by LivinInThe603