why so many murders in westend??...count is up to around 10
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why so many murders in westend??...count is up to around 10
Stupid, stupid post! "why so many murders in westend??..count is up around 10" Insensitive to those that have been killed, (count is up to around 10), inaccurate, vague, irresponsible, shameful....felt like trolling today lanetop? Excellent job! Have a great day.
i agree..lets hide the new truth about the new negrill..
Should people just not talk about it? Is that the solution?Quote:
Originally Posted by sunray
I believe this topic has been discussed to distraction in threads dating around the last week in July to the first week in August.
Is there more to be said?
What does again mean? Is this new news or old news?Quote:
Originally Posted by lanetop
Well, I took it to mean there was another murder. If not, then I retract my previous comment.
Observer, Gleaner, RJR, Western Mirror, OG.NR, Jamaica Star reported no murder this morning.
2 men shot dead in Western Jamaica
Friday, September 12, 2014 | 9:52 AM 10 Comments
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KINGSTON, Jamaica—Two men were shot and killed by unknown assailants in separate incidents Thursday in the western section of the island.
Dead are Junior Salmon of Negril in Westmoreland and James Sorrell of Falmouth, Trelawny.
Reports reaching OBSERVER ONLINE are that Sorrell was was with friends sometime after 5:00pm, when he was shot.
Meanwhile, Salmon was allegedly at home about 11:00 pm when he was attacked.
They were both pronounced dead at hospital.2 men shot dead in Western Jamaica - News
www.jamaicaobserver.com
I would think that "Western section of the island" is not necessarily "West End Negril specifically. Just an observation.
Must have missed that one. No details on it.
face announced that it was on west end . . .
I heard west end - villa la cage road - and this summer there does seem to have been an increase in murders in this area, unless they have been happening all along in the west end and just not been reported...
As with any such incidents, the first "information" may not be the most clear or entirely accurate. "Inaccurate, vague" count assertion as well as odd and impossible comments about hiding the truth in the year 2014 with near everyone having access to read and broadcast news instantly does seem to verge on tabloid activity rather than actual beneficial information for visitors to Negril.
These incidents happened to real people, with real families who are now grieving for their loved ones. A little compassion and understanding can go a long way, especially when the raw feelings are in their first day or two. Our thoughts and prayers go out to their family and friends.
28-year-old James Sorrell lived in Falmouth which is considered the western side of the island although it is on the north coast of Jamaica. Falmouth is located about 2 hours from Negril, about 30 minutes past Montego Bay, on the road toward Ocho Rios.
Police report that Sorrell was sitting having drinks with friends in Falmouth when an armed man approached from behind and opened fire.
The incident that happened in Negril occurred on Villa La Cage Road. Junior Salmon, 25, of Jericho, Hanover, nickname of Demon, had moved from Jericho, which is inland between Lucea and Sandy Bay to the residence in Negril.
Police report that Salmon was at home when two men entered the premises. Salmon and the men became embroiled in a dispute when the men pulled firearms. He tried to escape by running, but was chased by the men and they shot him.
He died on the spot. The attackers then escaped on Salmon’s motorbike.
Returned last night from a 2 week stay on the West End, we literally walked everywhere and any where we wanted at any time we chose to with NO PROBLEMS what so ever from anyone.
Early, late, dark, light nothing, not one single issue, nothing but a good time was had every where we stopped. Good vibes every where. No safety concerns at all other than good ol common sense.
Thats the only real westend we saw.
Jamb
Thanks once again Rob for presenting the facts. Our thoughts and prayers to the families involved as well as the troubled souls that committed these crimes.
Rob - Thanks for presenting the details as currently known. While this does not mitigate the tragedies, or the pain being experienced by the families, it does (or should) alleviate a lot of the judgment and fear that can be evoked by a statement such as "why so many murders?".
Much appreciated....
People are getting shot and killed rather frequently as of late. Not sure how the title of the thread is off base.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris B
There is nothing wrong with sharing information (good and/or bad), about Negril and Jamaica, but if a poster chooses to make a post, especially about such a serious issue as gun crime and murder in "westend" shouldn't that person at least give some information for the basis of their post? "Count is up to around 10" ??? What timeframe is that, what defines "westend" geographically, is that anywhere close to being an accurate statement, or is it based on some knowledge the poster probably should have shared?
Gun crime and murder have plagued Jamaica, (and many other parts of the world) for many years. People should be aware of that fact. It troubles me that posts regarding such a devastating problem are made with about as much thought as somebody starting a thread and asking where they can find some good jerk chicken. Sadly, many families and friends are left behind, suffering the loss of a loved one, and I wonder what they might think of the sometimes casual, and almost flippant way some members of this board discuss such issues.
Empathy is a very good quality that we should all put in to practice.
Agree, but there usually is no problem until there is a problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jambarney
Sometimes perceptions dont mesh with reality. For the first half of 2014, the Jamaican Constabulary Force has recorded an 8% decline in murders in Jamaica than the previous year's figures.Quote:
Originally Posted by booger
http://jis.gov.jm/murder-rate-january-june/
It may come as a surprise to many that there has been a decline in homicides in Jamaica so far this year, especially with all the attention the high profile killing of our old neighbor, Colin Lynch had on the internet. Had that not occurred, the "guesstimates" of a higher number of murders may not be of any discussion at all. Perceptions can mask the reality.
And for another possible surprise, following the lower murder rate island wide, the JCF has recorded a continued fall in all other categories of major crimes.
Living here gives one a more accurate accounting of actual incidents. You get a mental chart of trends from year to year. Many years ago, when crack was first introduced by foreigners to Negril, the homicides were more frequent although the guns were not the weapon of choice back then.
Last year (2013), due to the crack down by the JCF on the lottery scammers, the homicide rate was higher, which is one reason for the 8% drop in the murder rate this year.
And to point out an obvious fact, not a single one of these homicides were directed at any tourists. As with many crimes in any small region, it is often based on revenge and vendetta rather than any random occurrences.
With the increased actions by the JCF, the new ballistics systems being implemented on the island and dismantling of the criminal elements, we all hope that these decreases in all major crimes continue in the future.
Glad to see they are down 8% across the whole island. However the OP specifically mentioned the West End, not Jamaica as a whole. Any stats to share regarding the West End?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob
That's what I was wondering myself, since Kingston represents the overwhelming majority of the murder rate.Quote:
Originally Posted by booger
Very true. Few visitors would know the motive for some of these local on local crimes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob
Cap
The JCF would not have a published breakdown in their semi-annual and annual reports for the West End of Negril.
Negril is not considered a town yet, it is considered a village. It's numbers would be at most broken out as Negril as a whole (both Westmoreland and Hanover) but the numbers are generally included in the Westmoreland figures.
The West End is simply a nickname that the local residents came up with to differentiate it from the beach area. It is nothing "official". One Love Drive or the West End Road was originally called the Lighthouse Road. All three names can be used interchangeably.
From a living here standpoint, there does not seem to be any noticeable increase in the number of homicides, perhaps even a drop from last year. But there has been a whole lot more discussion on the internet about the incidents that have happened this year over the ones that happened last year.
Hopefully the additional discussion will lead to change. The more attention brought to the situation will likely bring additional resources. Or is that wishful thinking?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob
I was talking to Beverly while getting a massage and she was very concerned and even scared. She lives across from Catcha and said it was the young thugs that have her so afraid to live there by herself. She is trying to save up some money and move, hopefully to the states where her son lives. She said that area of the west end road was getting dangerous and not like it used to be.
In reading this post there's a few things I need to ask. 1. Was this latest murder near the hotels on the west end? 2. Was there or was there not more then one homicide on the west end area a month or two ago by some bikers or something? Just going by what I thought I had read on this board. I'm just asking I'm not trying to make a point here. As far this not happening to tourist, and being between locals. correct me if I'm wrong but there is always a chance for collateral damage.
Don't forget that most of the posters on this board consider themselves " non touristy" tourists. So they don't count as tourists . I think??
I think a majority of regular posters here at this time of year are regular visitors to Negril.Quote:
Originally Posted by treefrog
During the season there are lot more "tourists"
Actually, as Rob pointed out in his summary of the news article, one of the victims lived on the north coast, EAST of MoBay, but still in western part of the island. The other victim, though living in Negril, had moved there from inland of Lucea near Jericho, which is about halfway along the coast road from MoBay to Negril. This particular gentleman may have had some baggage that led to his demise, as the assailants appear to have been known to him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Els720
In these instances, it isn't fair to characterize these particular crimes and tragedies as endemic to the Negril (or specifically, West End) area, although one of them actually occurred there. I'm still of the opinion that these incidents are targeted toward local Jamaicans, due to circumstances that place the victims in a possession of business related cash, or something of value to the perpetrators. I don't believe that in any of the cases, tourists were ever in harm's way... and I don't say that to minimize these tragedies.
Look... it's easy for us to comment and speculate over what the hell may or may not be going on in Negril. But one thing is for certain. Not many of us on the board are familiar with the facts as those on the ground, living in Negril are; and we really need to stop bringing our own "facts" to the discussion without exercising some sensitivity to the families of the victims, some of whom we are personally familiar with.
Respect and blessings to the families of the victims.
Truth.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris B
Most of this is not random but with "cause" at least in the eyes of the perpetrators.
"Walk good" is still true.
It ain't going to affect a visitor.
Will this have any influence on my visits to Negril?
No.
The only thing I have to consider these days is; can I afford it?
None of this recent crime is against visitors.
The only thing that worries me a bit is the memory of the hotel robbery at the Falcon resort years ago, where tourists were robbed and a gardener was killed.
I only stay at secure properties like Sea Star (and so should you).
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