http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/envir...owing_19085585
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Lord giveth and taketh away.....
McKenzie explained that in order to assess the health of the beach over a longer term, NEPA uses data from 2000, in the case of Negril, and 2007 for the other sites. When compared to those baseline figures, the island's beaches are showing a net loss ranging from a high of 33 per cent to 11 per cent.
Stating the obvious . beach is better . Facts seem to indicate still at a big loss .
All I know is, the beach in some areas (tree house, tony's hut, Mariposa) that looked like they were going to be in the water. Now have double and triple the beach they had in 2012.
I have been to negril at least 10 times since may 2012 and the beach has come back in a huge way.
Good
great news,soon come
So much for Al Gore's predictions ...... 1) "The Arctic will be ice free by 2013" and 2) "melting ice could release enough water to cause at 20-foot rise in sea level in the near future.”
Did I miss something? My waterfront property in Florida is still here and I don't have to swim to the mail box in the morning for the paper. I guess sometimes facts and common sense get in the way "An Inconvenient Truth".
Maybe Gore should have gotten the Academy Award for Best Comedy as it was on par with the best of the Monte Python movies. And made as much sense.
Not possible!!!!!
Sea level is rising so what I see is impossible
Negril Beach is as wide as I've seen it but I've only seen it for 45 years...Impossible
I live on a saltwater canal with exit to the sea (sea level...) ...been here 15 years. My bulkhead tells me that the sea level hasn't changed......Impossible
But what do I know...must be impossible..
BTW...NEPA don't fix something that isn't broken
Cap
Look at the picture in the article and compare to a photo of the same tree taken in 2006 below. If my memory serves me correctly the water was almost waist deep at the tree.
(Sorry I forgot who took this photo so I can not give the credit due)
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Ha ha - forget Al Gore and listen to 98% of climate scientists - oh, I forgot, right wingers don't believe in science. You did miss something -it's coming and no amount of denial will stop it.
Beach was very wide at Tree House and Barry's Bar area when I was there two weeks ago. I appreciated and enjoyed that wide beach and commented how it seems to come and go.
I have been trying to point this out for decades now. Sand on any sea beach comes and goes depending on nature. As the article states, data used was collected between 2000 and 2007. It just so happens that from 2000 to 2005, the names of 18 devastating "named storms" were retired. That had never happened before in the history of weather keeping. And in 2005, there were so many named storms that the weather service ran out of names and started calling them Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta, Epsilon and Zeta. That again has never happened in the annuals of weather keeping. With all that wave activity during those 6 consecutive years, it would be impossible for the Negril beach not to shrink in size.
But since then, the Atlantic storms have returned to their normal historical trends, allowing the beach to gain in size, which is called accretion. And as for the sea level rise, there has been one world wide - the first real satellite data collected from 1993 to 2010 shows a world wide gain of 3 millimeters. In the actual world map shown below, you can see for yourself where the sea level has risen the most. And please look very carefully around Negril, the sea level has either shown no increase at all or has actually decreased by a millimeter or two.
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Here is what I have posted in the past...
"This has been discussed at length many times here. Any beach is an ever changing entity, the phrase "shifting sands" did not come about without merit.
Here is a photo of Kirk Douglas on the Negril beach back in the late 50's. You can see how wide the beach was on that day.
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I dont think two beach lounges would fit comfortably in that space end to end - the beach being maybe 20 feet wide. And that is without any concrete structures on the beach back then.
And now, some 50 years later, according to the current article in the OP's post, one agency says that in some sections the "sand is receding at a rate of more than a meter (over a yard) a year."
In January 2012, another article claimed that beach would be gone in 10 years.
http://negril.com/forum/showthread.p...try-as-we-know
In that thread I posted part of a reply as follows:
"Here is a picture that I took just a couple minutes ago (in January 2012) on the beach at Charela Inn. Please note the position of their sign as well as the curve of the bay off in the distance.
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Here is a picture I took at this same location back in March of 1998. It was featured on the Negril.com Negril Today page.
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Once again note the sign and the curve of the bay in the background. As you notice, they are taken from approximately the same position, but some 14 years apart."
For the above "meter per year", there would need to be 14 meters or over 42 feet of beach no longer there in the first picture, the current, "after" photo. I dont see it missing, do you?"
I will dig it up tomorrow. I wish in had gotten on a few weeks ago. It was even wide .
When you see how wide and beautiful the beach is these days and have to listen to people say how its disappearing..I scratch my head incredulously.. I know..big word for Fargoman...
Negril and the West End of the island was lucky enough to dodge the big storms last year. As June 1st was the start of Hurricane Season, perhaps you just need to wait until next year to scratch your head again (and maybe be able to use the same big word as it works in either instance). Global Warming and the rising of the seas is scientific fact so eventually the coastline as we know or knew it will be no more.
Peace and Guidance
You definitely won't be around to see that day, and most likely - neither will I. The imminent doom of global flooding is decades if not centuries away. Not saying it doesn't matter or it isn't happening, but it will have little.to no relevance to anyone over the age of 25.
I took this two weeks ago:
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And one of the tree in the post above:
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Great pics Sher! Nature at work!
I dont think that the tide would make much difference, might be more about the camera angle and wave action at that moment. From the JTB online site:
"The tides around the coast hardly vary. The difference between high and low tide is never more than 16 inches (41cm)."
The picture in the article seems to show that tree much farther from the waterline although it doesnt state when the pic was taken. I think the real point here is that the pictures from 2006 and 2015 give everyone an idea on how much beach has been gained and all the talk of beach "erosion" needs to be analyzed a bit more.
Well I sure hope that is an old picture, hate having to put on the snorkel to get to the bar!
Rasthai...
Dixiedreg's pic looks to be around mid 2004/5 of the Treehouse property and the now burnt down restaurant of Country Country.
My mid January 2016 pics below is of the same area.
I've heard it's even larger now...but I haven't been up there yet.
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That is definitely an old picture, the restaurant at Country Country has been moved from the beach. That is the first building in this picture. I think it moved over a year ago, maybe almost 2 now. Time flies!!!!
Oh yah, that's the old country country, should have picked up on that, either way will see it for myself in 3 weeks and any beach will be a great beach.
Country Country on the beach the restaurant burned down 2 years ago.
That photo looks to be about 4 years ago... I remember having to crawl over the sandbags in front of the Country, Country restaurant to be able to walk the beach.