Friends in the Hood

Hello To My Dear Friends I have never met. But I sign on almost every day or whenever I can and see what you're all up to. I read about who's there and who's going and who's been. And of course we are all dreaming. Summer means different things to many folks, but one commonality remains. How long more before I go again. Shocking good. Think I'll throw a few chicken legs on the barbie for dinner and make a big pot of rice and peas. Turn up Bob on the deck and forget the rest. btw. If I soon don't go I'm gonna go ding dong cause I can only pretend a likkle while longer. Need a reach.

Jelly Bean, I too need a reach and don't see it in the near future so this at least helps me to know that I'm not ALONE!!!!!

Keep smiling,
TG

We found breadfruit at a local market and put one on the fire pit this weekend...Jerk chicken thighs last night. I don't really miss the island in the summer. Once summer passes then I'll start Jamaica dreamin'. For now, I have everything I need at home but the ocean view.

Jelly Bean, this board and fellow boardies keep the dream alive for me when I can't be in Negril.

Thanks Rob for helping us with our PNS (Post Negril Syndrome) since 1995!

Enjoy,

VVHT

Missing Ja BAD too!! Don't see anything soon either:confused: We was going every other year for 7 trips. Need a REACH to reconnect with our Jamaica family and frens!

Kevin, what store did you find the breadfruit? We live in the Norristown area.
Regards,
Bob

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Originally Posted by rjonsun

Kevin, what store did you find the breadfruit? We live in the Norristown area.
Regards,
Bob

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They occasionally have them at a store called Easton Family Market (not far from the RT 78 Easton Exit) which was once a C-Town. They seem to only get a few in occasionally and they sell out rather quickly. They keep them floating in water so look for a plastic tote or bucket. I believe we paid 1.65 per pound.

Don't confuse the Easton Family Market with the Easton Public Market which is located downtown. Although if you're in the area and want some finer dining options I suggest hitting the downtown which is getting to be known as a culinary destination. You may also want to check C-Town stores if you have those in your area.

Jelly Bean I am looking for a friend in the hood to fill me in on the Ins/Outs of Jamaica. Go, Dont Go, Stay Out/Say in, etc. I am seriously considering relocating and need some local news. Can you help? or point me in the right direction? Thanks

newb,

I relocated here about 25 years ago and started Negril.com! We have a forum for Living in Jamaica - please be sure to check that out and you can ask more detailed questions about making the move in that forum.

But there is no substitute for actually spending more time here. And of course getting to know who is who and why they are who they are. Learning information directly is the best way. as always.

Oh newb, I am only a dreamer. You will have to read the forum and get a framework for what you'd like to do and where you'd like to be. Rob has good advice and so does many more friends here. The day I walk into the grocery store and find soursop, is the day I'm gonna kiss the produce manager, buy 10 or 12 and go home and pig out. But for today it's a Jamacian Cider and a few quiet moments with Bob, on the deck overlooking the Atlantic Ocean! But....I'll be back soon.

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I am seriously considering relocating and need some local news.

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As a relatively new visitor to Negril (3 stays in Negril, one in Ochi. Trips 5 and 6 are in the works), I would recommend several visits of increasing duration over several years to determine whether Jamaica is a country you want to relocate into.

I found that some volunteer work helped open opportunities to become a little more involved in the actual, non-tourist, daily happenings in town. It also allowed me to meet some interesting and very involved men and women. I would LOVE to live in Jamaica, but the more I learn, the more I discover what I like and don't like about the village of Negril. There are so many social nuances and norms that you just can't read about in a book or online, they must be experienced first hand. This forum has a tremendous amount of information about traveling and living in Negril. Dive in!

I also enjoy listening to the radio via Internet, and read the newspapers online to keep current on local and national issues.

Many of the folks here get together year after year... Vacations begin to sync up. A popular week is the last week of April, with a large group meet up on the last Friday of the month. You may be interested to vacation that week and meet some long time lovers of Negril.

:)

How long can one stay in Jamaica at a time? We're planning an Aug/Sept trip for 2 week to see the place and housing; depending on findings, will like to return permanently.

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How long can one stay in Jamaica at a time? We're planning an Aug/Sept trip for 2 week to see the place and housing; depending on findings, will like to return permanently.

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Jamaica will let you stay up to 180 days without a VISA authorizing longer. However, the maximum you can get stamped at the airport is 90 days. That forces you to go to Jamaican Immigration to ask for an extension if you want to stay longer (up to another 90 days). Be nice when you ask as they don't have to give you one. I don't know for sure but I think that costs $10,000 Jamaican. May be more now with the devaluation of the Jamaican Dollar. Let's see what others say.

Peace and Guidance

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How long can one stay in Jamaica at a time? We're planning an Aug/Sept trip for 2 week to see the place and housing; depending on findings, will like to return permanently.

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Accompong is correct...you'll have to go to Montego Bay (the closest to Negril) or Kingston to extend your stay another 90 days.
If you are planning on living here and you've no connection to Jamaica via marriage or family, you will need to apply for Permanent Residency, a Work Permit if you're planning on working in Jamaica or you could eventually apply for citizenship.

You haven't said if you've been to Jamaica before or if you're a regular visitor here but either way, you are going to need to spend more than a couple of weeks to "see the place". There's a lot to learn and understand and you won't be able to do that in a such a short time. Jamaica can be a fabulous place to relocate but even people that have lived here full time for years, have had issues with adjusting to the differences in lifestyle.

Hi Rob, can you provide the link to your blog, I would love to read it...

cleome,

I believe this is the link you are looking for:

http://negril.com/forum/forumdisplay...ing-in-Jamaica

Enjoy,

VVHT

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You haven't said if you've been to Jamaica before or if you're a regular visitor here but either way, you are going to need to spend more than a couple of weeks to "see the place". There's a lot to learn and understand and you won't be able to do that in a such a short time. Jamaica can be a fabulous place to relocate but even people that have lived here full time for years, have had issues with adjusting to the differences in lifestyle.

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Bnewb. I think this can't be stressed enough. There have been scores and scores of people that I have either personally known or that I have met through forums like here who thought they were prepared to move to Jamaica permanently and have since left disillusioned by the experience. It is not like moving from say Omaha Ne. to NYC although a shock to the senses that would be. Everyday life in Jamaica can wear you down. Things that are common place and easy where you live can be laborious and frustrating in Jamaica.

Although I now live in rural Jamaica, if I didn't go back and forth once or twice a year I would pull out the little bit of hair I still have. We have a saying in my hometown that "there are 25 hours in a day and 8 days in a week" to describe how slow time seems to go there and planning things around "likkle more" and "soon come" can be nearly impossible. I have stayed for multiple months in five different locations (Kingston, Port Maria, Treasure Beach, Accompong Town and Negril) and each presented me with different challenges to overcome.

My advice to someone wanting to move to Jamaica might include:
1) Be sure you have more than enough steady income (Being retired helps because finding a job and getting a Work Permit is very hard) Everything will cost more than you plan for.
2) Use some money to go to Jamaica at least 3 times in one year. (Tourist Season, middle of Summer and Fall) Each season has different challenges.
3) Stay for at least a month each time (being the "fresh face" and being a "veteran traveler" can be quite different)
4) Explore different areas. (Your dream might be the beach in Negril but your wallet might not be fat enough to keep you there)
5) Choose your friends VERY carefully. (Man to man is so unjust, children: Ya don't know who to trust.Your worst enemy could be your best friend,And your best friend your worse enemy.Some will eat and drink with you,Then behind them su-su 'pon you.Only your friend know your secrets,So only he could reveal it. - Bob Marley was SO right about that).
6) Keep your financial situation to yourself (No need for anyone to know how much you have, how much you can get or where your money comes from)

Consider trying to split between your home now and staying in Jamaica as you will have to leave at least once a year for one day anyways to satisfy immigration rules. Six months in each place will let you know in a couple of years just where you really want to live. Jamaica is nice but noh easy.

Peace and Guidance

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Originally Posted by Accompong

Consider trying to split between your home now and staying in Jamaica as you will have to leave at least once a year for one day anyways to satisfy immigration rules. Six months in each place will let you know in a couple of years just where you really want to live. Jamaica is nice but noh easy.

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Accompong...There is no leaving for one day during the year to satisfy immigration rules! You can only stay six months in a calendar year without having Permanent Residency, a Work Permit, Citizenship or having marriage/family connections. The six month visitor stay has always been in the immigration rules but didn't became regularly enforced until around 2009 or 2010.


As far as living in Jamaica...well I could go on for days about that...but living here full time or part time, working or retiring here, visiting a short time or visiting for months at a time...these are all very, very different perspectives of being in Jamaica. All valid and wonderful in their own ways...but completely different.

When I decided to live here full time, I realized to get a respectful understanding of the community and different lifestyle from my own, that I would have to stay without leaving for a long period of time. I found going back and forth and the differences in the two lifestyles adding to my frustration of "living somewhere new". I didn't leave Jamaica at one point for over four years and this helped me adjust to seeing Jamaica for what it truly offers.

I've also seen scores of people come and go in the time I've been here (never mind what Rob has seen in 25 years) and I've got to say it gets really easy to tell if someone is going to last here or not...usually right from the first meeting/introduction of that person. This is not meant as an arrogant comment, but rather a comment to remind everyone to do your homework if you're wanting to live anywhere that offers a permanent change in lifestyle. This may seem like a simple concept but too often it's completely ignored, and those that leave tend to blame Jamaica for their frustrations.
After living here I have found a great circle of friends who have helped make my transition successful.
My advice...only get advice from those that have moved here successfully and heed their advice...they know how to succeed in Jamaica and why others fail.

Jamaica can be an incredibly rewarding experience!