Heard on the radio this morning (Power 106) that if this curfew is successful from a crime reduction standpoint that parliament is considering making it permanent, island-wide including tourist areas.
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Heard on the radio this morning (Power 106) that if this curfew is successful from a crime reduction standpoint that parliament is considering making it permanent, island-wide including tourist areas.
what are the details of the curfew
LOL.... that would fly like a lead balloon.... besides, the one week curfew from 8pm to 6am is to stop the night time gatherings that have been in breach of the social distancing measures.Quote:
Originally Posted by TuffGong
Any country cannot survive with a permanent night time curfew.... simply impossible... deliveries are routinely made at night...
Was this on a call in radio show?
The daily hours of the curfew are from 8:00 pm to 6:00 am for each of the seven days. Only individuals of the essential services will be allowed by the police and military to be on the streets of the country during the time of the curfew.Quote:
Originally Posted by original spanky
(from the Observer)
With the uptick in Crime in Jamaica being so prevalent these days...…..
something along those lines would eventually have to come into play...…
something has to be done as things can't continue the way they have been.....
wi have had so much crime on the West End, in the last year, that it isn't funny...…
just mi two cents...…
Cool Runnings, Marko
I do not believe confinement will reduce crime over any length of time. Criminals would just learn stealth. Education and commitment by law enforcement as a deterrent, and government programs developed to level the social economic playing field are your long term solutions. imho
Yesterday was April Fool's day.Quote:
Originally Posted by TuffGong
:biggrin-new::biggrin-new:
There was an MP on later in the day that confirmed that the idea was being considered. If you listen to either Power 106 or RJR they consistently talk about how crime is what is holding back economic development on the island. Desperate times call for desperate measures and the Zones of Special Operations were considered successful by the powers that be. Call it what you will, but I do believe it is being discussed. Last year Jamaica ranked 2nd in the world in per capita murders, Kingston was rated the 19th most dangerous city in the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marko
I have a problem not with a "curfew" but with the term "permanent". I don't think there is much of a disagreement with the need for a curfew. There is simply a significant percentage of the Jamaican population that will not abide by any rules and restrictions put in place for the health and safety of the population as a whole.
This current virus situation is a "no joke" business and the rise of the crime problem can both be dealt with in some part by a well enforced curfew but an "open ended" or permanent curfew, in my opinion, is not the solution to the problem.
The current 7 day island night curfew, which is now in place from 8pm to 6am is not a crime reduction measure as is the ZOSO (Zones of Special Operations). The curfew was put in place by only about half the Parliament (the party in power, the JLP) as a way to reduce gatherings at night that breach the current COVID measures. The Opposition PNP were originally told there was to be no sitting session that day, and was later given one hour notice of the vote. Needless to say they were not happy about that and no PNP member of Parliament was present for the vote.Quote:
Originally Posted by TuffGong
Even during the COVID outbreak, politics is still politics.
Its not just RJR and Power 106, but even the PSOJ (Private Sector Organization of Jamaica) state that the murder rate is holding back economic development. This is a widely held belief by virtually every Jamaican. But it seems you may be confusing the ZOSO with the 7 day curfew which has already seen a dozen arrested and charged in the Kingston area for breaches of the COVID measures.
Of the two current crime reduction measures, the State of Public Emergency (SOE) and the Zones of Special Operations, the ZOSOs are the least restrictive. A ZOSO is not a typical police curfew, but an attempt at a new program that is heavily focused on respect for and harmony with the occupied community. The results are not instantaneous but expected to take years to show results. The first one started in October 2017 in Denham Town. Denham Town is seeing a high murder rate as of 2020.
The SOEs, which started in January 2018 and now cover about half the island, are suspensions of the constitutional rights of the citizens. There is much debate as to the effectiveness of the SOEs, while Westmoreland has probably benefited the most, the murder rate has actually increased on the island under the current SOEs.
There are also several pending cases in the Jamaican Supreme Court as to the Constitutionality of the SOEs. There is a possibility that the SOEs can be struck down by a Supreme Court ruling.
The effectiveness of the ZOSOs and SOEs were often a debate starter in local bars. If you were a JLP supporter the measures were often seen as effective. PNP supporters generally used the current statistics to demonstrate the ineffectiveness of the measures. But since the COVID-19 virus, there is not much conversation about this as it has taken the back burner to the crisis at hand.
For those interested in more detail about the differences in the SOEs and ZOSOs, here is a decent link from the Observer...
http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/opini...-review_190744