HELP: This Statement Struck A Cord

Ok, I thought I missed something on my last trip about what to expect. I admitted that even though I am Jamaica I was unprepared for the men in Negril and beach area. I have been reading the forums and not finding much to gauge if my next trip will be as bad as the last. So if this is a much avoided topic or just isolated case where the men were beyond intrusive, or beyond noraml sweet talk but a few set out to disrupt the course of one's vacation.

I am ASKING honestly what to expect, because the last time I was not ready for what was referred to as the beach boys/phenomena? I might still NOT be ready...lol! Well, countless trips to Jamaica even Westmoreland but my second to Negril/beach area.

Thanks and much appreciated.

If you stay at one of the properties on the cliffs, there wouldn't be as much pressure. Even on the beach, Coco La Palm and others have good security and will not let locals on the property without reason.

Respect,
Col. Andy

WHAT statement struck a chord? there's no statement quoted in your post (?)

if you were there recently then you already know what to expect - it will very likely be the same as you've already experienced.

i don't think they are deliberately trying to "disrupt the course of one's vacation." i think all they care about is tryna sell what they got to whomever will take the bait, and they just care more about making that money than they do about considering whether or not they are being intrusive/disruptive. in fact i'd go so far as to say they couldn't give a rat's patoot who feels they are disruptive, they're gonna sell sell sell and who don't like it, they just don't care.

They know that statistically, the more ppl they approach, the higher the likeliehood that they will make a sale. So they approach as many people as they possibly can, cause they know that eventually someone will want what they got.... whatever that may be -

not sure what else there really is to know.

You may not believe this but it's the same way for a man.

Since my return 18 months ago I can't count the propositions I've had...and I'm 70...

Similar to what MissBlue said, I had a funny experience that really made total sense.....A guy approached me at a club and I had no interest in his lines he was trying to say to me, so I told him no thank you, I'm not interested. He then turned to my friend that was with me and used the same exact sorry pick up line. I laughed and asked him how could he use the same pick up line to my friend. His reply was: "it's like fishing, you use bait to catch a fish but every time you throw the line out, You might not catch a fish, so you throw it out again hoping to make a catch but you don't throw the bait away until you've made a catch" To me it summed it up completely.

It's supply and demand, you will be approached but a "no thank you", or "not interested" usually makes them move on their way. To some it really annoys them but I actually enjoy chatting with some of them.

most of this action happens on the beach and in the bars/clubs........
so if you stay clear of these places.....the likelihood of this happening diminishes greatly......lol
that is why mi spend so much time in da wata snorkeling and swimmy........lol

one of the things with Jamaican guys is that nuthin really bothers dem......nuthin
you can be walking with your sweetheart and the guys think nuthin of chattin up your gurl right in front of you.........
so it's not only the ladies have to be on der guard with the guys.........us guys do too!

Cool Runnings, Marko

in your best jamaican accent - tell them - i'm already "working" baybee - lol

I don't buy *that*...it's free...

Now if I could only get the same deal on Red Stripe...

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Originally Posted by brasi

I don't buy *that*...it's free...

Now if I could only get the same deal on Red Stripe...

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get one free get one free?:D

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Originally Posted by Seveen

in your best jamaican accent - tell them - i'm already working baybee - lol

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Originally Posted by TiCtOc

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get one free get one free?:D

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Good one Tic...haha...I'm sorry but if anyone has to pay for #@&^% (especially in Negril)...you have problems I can't help you with. I mean: add up the Stripes, rum, fine Jamaican cigarettes, music, water, endless sand...

...and your pathetic a#$s can't find a woman/man who wants to hang out and have little fun without PAYING for it? LOL

There, I said it.

Not just parties and clubs. Taxi drivers (mostly discreet, sometimes blatant) an even while buying from the market vendors

I was taking a relaxing swim while there in Sept....just floating, looking at the sky...relaxed...when suddenly....da da...da da....da da...(theme from Jaws)...no, it wasnt a shark, it was a gigilo slowly making his way toward me in the wata. He kept a fairly straight line along the shore, about chest deep, keeping his eyes peeled for his next "victim". I knew I had been spotted since he made a pretty obvious change in course at this point. Since I was in a pretty good mood, all things considered, I thought I would just go with it for awhile and see what happened. Well, he spent a good 10 minutes doing his absolute bestest to win my heart...when he realized it wasnt working, I noticed his eyes start to wander further down the beach (still talking, but obviously knew this wasnt "the one"). He had spotted another lady entering the water and I got a pretty quick "lata" and off he went.
So Marko, being in the wata isnt gonna save ya either.....lolol

On a more serious note, I have been annoyed on a few occassions, amused on others. I think it does depend what state of mind you happen to be in when approached. After a week straight of these proposals, it can begin grate on the nerves, your pleasant demeanor becomes not so pleasant after repeated "no thanks" over and over again.

heck, i've even been propositioned by a skycap at the airport WHILE he was on the job carrying luggage..... LOL.

it's all about perspective, people. i've encountered some of this but i just laugh and say 'nope, no thanks, i'm already taken care of' *wink wink* and ppl back off every time. in 23 years it has never escalated into unpleasantness or what some call 'aggressiveness'. nobody has ever put something in my hand, slathered aloe on my skin, or tried to force their way into my bed. I don't perceive it as a bother or an intrusion, just part and parcel of the place. yah i could have some emotional reaction, or complain, or get annoyed - but why bother? that's how it is there and my little feelings about it aren't gonna change a thing. so i just roll with it, and have had some hilarious conversations with people, some of whom have become acquaintances over the years & greet me normally whenever they see me pass by.

You will probably be happier staying on the cliffs, especially if you're bring your children again. I can relate with you there. If I had my kids with me, my reaction to some of them men on the beach might have been a little bit different. lol I went to JA with a friend, so the comments, propositions, marriage proposals, and pick up lines didn't bother me or offend. It was funny a lot of the time, and other times it was a little annoying (at the worst).

After a day on the beach, it was pretty nice to go back to our spot on the cliffs and get away from all that. Nobody not one time came at me like that on the west end, but I've only been that one time.

I remember your report and how shocked you were at some things that were said to you in the presense of your family. But ya'll loved it when you went to the cliffs right? I personally, loved the time I spent on 7 mile beach....but I'll be the first one to say....it's not for everyone. lol

taking my child with me has really been the foil to get the hustlers off of me
if they start their conversation i say - respect - i'm with my child - and usually they back away
now after many many trips - walking down the beach with my son is the best remedy
he'll ask them - why are you looking at my mom - why are you talking to my mom - don't touch my mom
he's the best security a girl could ask for - lol
plus . . . after umpteen visits - the higglers have NEVER seen me with anyone - so they see me - and they don't think it's their lucky day

in fact one trip - a new guy was swirling and grinning in front of my beach chair
one of the regulars shouted out to him "she don't mess with no beach boys"

HELP: This Statement Struck A Cord

Ok, I thought I missed something on my last trip about what to expect. I admitted that even though I am Jamaica I was unprepared for the men in Negril and beach area. I have been reading the forums and not finding much to gauge if my next trip will be as bad as the last. So if this is a much avoided topic or just isolated case where the men were beyond intrusive, or beyond noraml sweet talk but a few set out to disrupt the course of one's vacation.

I am ASKING honestly what to expect, because the last time I was not ready for what was referred to as the beach boys/phenomena? I might still NOT be ready...lol! Well, countless trips to Jamaica even Westmoreland but my second to Negril/beach area.

Thanks and much appreciated.

Hi I have been following lots of threads recently on this board and I think 'all is definately what it seems' with regard to your query.

Are you giving a vibe that they feel they can take things to a different level? A very firm 'no thanks i'm good' is all that is required. Sometimes all it takes is common sense. Observing alot of tourists/foreigners in Jamaica I wonder if they would behave the same at home. Just my opinion.

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Originally Posted by Seveen

now after many many trips - walking down the beach with my son is the best remedy
he'll ask them - why are you looking at my mom - why are you talking to my mom - don't touch my mom
he's the best security a girl could ask for - lol
plus . . . after umpteen visits - the higglers have NEVER seen me with anyone - so they see me - and they don't think it's their lucky day

in fact one trip - a new guy was swirling and grinning in front of my beach chair
one of the regulars shouted out to him "she don't mess with no beach boys"

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Hahaha, Seveen that's too funny....I bet he get's a kick outta that

When I'm approached by a working girl usually a simple no thanks will work. I did have one who was much more persistent. She wanted me to know that she could show me things I'd never seen. Now, I've been in every port in the Pacific and most in the Atlantic and I doubt if she had insight I hadn't experienced. But that is not what I said to her.

Having lived in Ja for so many years I know that most of these hustlers do not come from families that raised them to be that.

Here's what I said to her. "I've been married to Miss Ginny for 35 years and I took a vow to be faithful and no matter what you offer I won't break that vow"

Her expression went from hard assed working girl to a real person.....her response was "I wish Jamaican men were so"

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Good one Tic...haha...I'm sorry but if anyone has to pay for #@&^% (especially in Negril)...you have problems I can't help you with. I mean: add up the Stripes, rum, fine Jamaican cigarettes, music, water, endless sand...

...and your pathetic a#$s can't find a woman/man who wants to hang out and have little fun without PAYING for it? LOL

There, I said it.

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LOL Brasi, I was under the impression you were a saint!! :eek:

Sandy:

Well, thanks to Negril.com ICON ShellyK suggesting I was like a "brother type" and "as much as I try to act bada$$ I am not fooling her" LOL...I am Michael J Fox...that's the rumour. haha

But let me be clear: I have a tattoo, I swim less than an hour after eating all the time, and I will indeed admit have had "relations" with women other than the woman I was married to for 15 years...albeit on a limited and respectful basis. I also jaywalk on occasion. :D

In January 2012, lock up your unwed sisters and daughters while I am in Negril. I am a DAAAAAANGEROUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS man. lol

LOL Brasi!

"in fact one trip - a new guy was swirling and grinning in front of my beach chair
one of the regulars shouted out to him "she don't mess with no beach boys" "

I've had similar experiences through the years. New guy on the beach tries to get my attention/gain my favor. One of the "old hands" nudges, talks in his ear... end of that hustle because the more seasoned guy just gave him the "she don't mess with no beach boys" message. Pretty funny to watch. Guy getting his moves on then, act over. Good entertainment though.

Ummm...Yvonne...that was me...LOL jk

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In January 2012, lock up your unwed sisters and daughters while I am in Negril. I am a DAAAAAANGEROUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS man. lol

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WATCH OUT FOR BRASI GIRLS!!!!!!!! :p :p :D :o

WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek: LMAO!

You like bad-ass airplanes Brasi?
My kind of dude - oppps- that doesn't sound right!

I find that women generaly are not too impressed by airplanes - could be wasting your time.
They like vampires, though, apparently.

Ever thought about filing down your incisors?

K3

Lmao k3!!!!!!!!!!!

you should never assume, because it makes an ass out of u and me :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkMXj...eature=related

I watch these videos. So far, they haven't helped but am not through the entire set of DVDs yet. :D

Jan 2012: the great experiment.

Maybe its because your drinking pepsi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIG0kB9lOxo

Brasi here is a better vid for you:Dhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfpqbKZRo48

@airport: those fumes at work are killing you bro. Brasi ain't a batty boi

@Tic: thanks! I like #3 BEST. And the 1000 points? Sooooon come.

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Originally Posted by brasi

@airport: those fumes at work are killing you bro. Brasi ain't a batty boi

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me know,

Brasi you poor thing I know it's hard out there for a pimp...

lol

haha. Truth is, I have very little game. I was married 15 years, and then in a serious relationship for 2 of the 5 years since I was emancipated...so.....yeh. My game lacks. I think.

But I'm practicing up for my trip in just over a month. And if I get a chance, I'm gonna watch GerryG123 work his magic LOL

<---I am dangerous I am dangerous I am dangerous LOL

Tic that video had me cracking up...

#4- don't do that one..I hate when someone tries to call you back...excuse me, you better bring your lazy arse over here!
#9- Might work, depends on what you're working with ...just keepin it real. lol
#10- I wouldn't recommend that one either.

Try slowing down enough for them to catch up, lol ....