just fyi Negril has now entered the top 20 in the safest places to visit list, issued by the uk travel industry in contrast Florida has fallen out of top 20 and on to the unsafe places list at number 14
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just fyi Negril has now entered the top 20 in the safest places to visit list, issued by the uk travel industry in contrast Florida has fallen out of top 20 and on to the unsafe places list at number 14
The WHOLE State of Fl.??
I'm with you Marko.....what with the news report I read yesterday about St. Petersburg, FL being the saddest town in the US and now the state of Florida is one of the most unsafe places to visit......I better just go ahead and hop a plane to Negril RIGHT NOW!!!!!
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Most areas of south & central Fl. have been hit HUGELY by foreclosure, severly dropping home prices & unemployment....as we all know, depression & desperation can lead to drug usage & crime....not making excuses, just trying to look at the reasons behind what's happening in the total picture.
Here in St. Augustine things are as laid back and mellow as usual. Northeast Florida is not like the rest of the state luckily.
Also...generally speaking, the "media" portrays what they want you to hear, by manipulating "facts" or "leaving out" certain facts to achieve their own purposes.....just depends on who's doing the reporting, as to what "facts" you will hear!
u seet northcoast.
i'm in Miami beach; it's December and i'm in shorts and flipflops, i can open a coconut from palm trees right outside my door, the sun is shining, fresh sea breeze a blow, the pool is sparkling, and i can walk around at any hour, day or middle of the night and not worry bout a thing. it's INFINETLY preferable, and WAY more 'safe' than say, NYC or Philly - or i daresay, even negril at this point. i just don't get these dopey polls at all; i think they're especially misleading when it's only opinions of a select few travelers from one specific country - to me this indicates nothing of value for travelers; all it does is put false senses of relative danger/safety into their minds.
yes, and that would be my point -- "under the impression" is completely subjective; because this report is only a subjective opinion of and for a very narrow group of people. it serves no purpose to the traveling public at large, as it has no factual value -
Was this a poll or information based on statistics?
-- but ONLY from the UK.
yes only from that small country of 63 million people just off the coast of Mainland Europe
that's not the point. the point is that there are millions of OTHER people in the world who travel from many OTHER countries too - so this one statistical sample cannot be considered valid for the whole world of the traveling public; it's misleading/erroneous to put it forth as if it's 'universally true' -- because it's just a limited subjective sampling.
And I can almost guarantee where the results of this poll basically came from, at least as far as Sarasota is concerned
There was an incident in Sarasota not too long ago, all over the news (here in Tampa and surrounding areas) so I could only imagine how it was in the media over there.
http://www.tampabay.com/news/publics...r-side/1164757
You could get a sample from Canada but that's only from a 30 million people country versus a 60 million people country like the UK. So I would stick with the 60 million country since there is a larger pool of people to get your statistics from.
If you are implying more UK people are targeted in crimes versus any other nationality, I think you are mistaken MissBlue.
no i'm not implying anything, and i have no idea how that could be extrapolated from what i said.
All i am doing is making one point -- which is:
the first post in this thread made a blanket-type statement, implying that this 'safety report' is true for all travelers - and it is not. the conclusion presented is true only for British travelers during the one-year time period of August 2010 - August 2011; so it doesn't have any real 'on the ground' value that's relevant to all travelers, under current conditions.
Missblue you must be reading a different post then me, i've read and re read my post a number of times and i can't see anything other then a comment on how safe Negril is, i could have picked other places in USA which are higher on the unsafe list, but i didn't want to be accused of joining the growing anti american bandwagon, that is rolling over here
Stop bickering I am getting ready to go down there I will report back how safe I think it is:p
Hmmm... interesting-good news for Negril....One thing I do know is that Jamaica (and yes, icludes Negril) Is not the most "Transparent" country when it comes to reporting crime..Many crimes of all nature has gone on that no one never hears about....But then again, Jam. is like that....No chat too much.....
I think you missed the point of the OP's topic. These reports are from people in the UK...it has nothing to do with Jamaica being "transparent".
But, commenting on your separate topic...Jamaicans do have a tendency to 'handle' issues themselves...but may I also ask...do you really believe that all crimes are reported in all countries? I really don't think this is unique to Jamaica!
Travel advisory UK from foreign and commonwealth home office website
Criminals have targeted visiting British nationals and those returning to resettle permanently in Jamaica. There have been some violent incidents, including cases of armed robbery, murder and rape. Before returning to resettle, seek advice from the Jamaican High Commission in London and/or the local Jamaican Information Service.You should still maintain vigilance even when staying with family or friends.
You should follow these guidelines:
Be particularly alert for thieves but do not offer resistance in the event of an attempted robbery.
Don’t walk or use buses at night. Only hire taxis authorised by the Jamaica Tourist Board usually operated by the Jamaica Union of Travellers Association (JUTA) or taxis ordered from hotels for your sole use (i.e. unshared).
Do not give lifts to strangers and keep car doors and windows locked.
Avoid large crowds and public demonstrations. Criminals use the confusion of such events to engage in acts such as robbery.
Do not carry large amounts of cash or wear eye-catching jewellery. Use hotel safety deposit boxes to store valuables, money and passports.
Try to vary which restaurants you use. Frequenting the same place too often might make you a target for thieves.
Unless you are fully acquainted with the route and are driving in daylight hours, you should not self-drive a car to or from Kingston International Airport. Instead, take an official 'JUTA' taxi, or taxi recommended by your hotel or airport’s official taxi dispatcher for your journey to or from the airport. There have been outbreaks of violence in the Mountain View area on one route from the airport to the city. You should therefore avoid this route and use the alternative Humming Bird route via South Camp Road.
For more general information see victims of crime abroad.
In the event of an emergency in Jamaica, call 119 for police and 110 for an ambulance.
Tic that's general advice for all of JA and covers some of the areas that there have been problems with, same as there are areas of Uk and here in France that there are problems with, I still say that Negril is a safe place to visit and stay, but it would also be an unwise person not to lock his door at night
No its not unique to Jam....But were not talking about other countries are we??? This is about Jam-specifically Negril...and you know as well I do that crime happens in Negril that is swept under the rug so to speak...But yes, I would consider Negril safer than many areas of the world right now-ie certain parts of Mexico where I've lived before..
TICTOC...you pulled out only a portion of the information...the article starts with...
This advice has been reviewed and reissued with amendments to the Entry Requirements - Passport Validity section (reworded). The overall level of the advice has not changed; there are no travel restrictions in place in Jamaica.
And...here is the link to the full article for anyone that may be interested...it's very similar to other countries that provide travel safety information...
http://www.fco.gov.uk/en/travel-and-...merica/jamaica
Suzen,
Living here for nearly the last 2 decades now, I cannot agree. In this day and age, with nearly everyone having access to the internet, I cannot fathom how crime would be swept under any rug. There would be neighbors, witnesses and victims who would post their information on many different websites, as well as reporters who make a living writing stories that sell newspapers and tv and radio advertising. Any story of interest would be immediately reported. But as with anywhere - some things are just not deemed newsworthy or the victim simply doesnt want their name involved with the incident for any number of reasons.
I cannot think of any serious, real crime in Negril that has not been reported by the news services or on the internet in recent years. The fact of the matter is that crime is a rather rare occurrence in Negril, which I suppose could lead one to believe that things are being swept under the carpet. But the truth of the situation is that with the internet, there would have to be some kind of grand conspiracy to prevent events from coming to light. And which is more likely, that crime is rare in Negril, or that the various and opposing "powers that be" are somehow getting together and preventing everyone who knows of a crime from posting this information?
the whole time I had the cottage on the Cliffs.....I don't ever remember one crime.......even petty stuff
and in the 30 years of going to Jamaica......I only know of one unfortunate death that hit home.......
the only problem I really had was with a sista or brother in law that thought I was an ATM........lol
and the other thing you have to look out for are people helping themselves to your stuff when you aren't around.....
but if you have the doors locked and burglar bars on the windows..........it's not a problem
Cool Runnings, Marko
In a nutshell, violent crime in Miami is WAAAYYYY higher than in NYC. Missblue may "feel safer" in Miami than she does in NYC, but the facts suggest that she is in fact less safe there than in NYC.
Which is kind of like people feeling safe or unsafe in Negril. If you've had something happen to you or someone you know, you probably don't feel safe. If you haven't, you probably do feel safe. Likewise if a town is "your town" and you know people and know the area, you probably ARE safer, even if the crime rate is higher there than other places.
Facts/statistics have little to do with how safe we feel.
How many British tourists were murdered in Negril last year? None.
We have been visiting Negril for more than 20 years and we have always felt safe there!