Cutanous Larva Migrans......

Has anyone contracted this "problem" while in Jamaica? Who did you go to for help if they manifested themselves while you were still in Jamaica?

We know it is a sub/tropical problem and it is very common as we have since found out from a multitude of doctors. Here is our experience dealing with it. We spent six weeks this past spring in Jamaica. Four days after we got home my husband says the skin on his feet feels irritated...so I look at them and sure enough there are huge spots of redness. I told him that it may possibly be from having to once again wear a full shoe rather than sandals. Another 4 days pass...he says the redness is worse. I just about freaked out.....I knew what it was, but he didn't. I had to tell him it was parasites....a really, really bad case of parasites. His feet were covered in them. So both of us were freaked out totally! He was at the Dr the next day. Unfortunately his Dr was gone so had to see someone else. He was prescribed Vermox. Don't waste your money on it, it doesn't do a thing. It got so bad so fast it was shocking. Both feet were covered in worms circling around and around, pockets of infection everywhere....between toes,on soles, on top and sides , even under his toenails. This all happened in about a week. To make a 4 month story short, he ended up on disability as he could no longer walk on his feet. The severe amount of infection invaded his body so bad that it wreaked havoc on his immune system, so when his Dr prescribed penicillin or antibiotics he would go into dangerous allergic reaction. He was rushed to emergency 8 times. His throat, tongue, face, hands, arms, legs would swell in minutes....no, actually it only took seconds to happen. His Dr was back about a couple weeks into dealing with this and he knew exactly what it was and what was needed to end it quickly. Only a dosage of Ivermectin or Albiendazole will. The Dr tried to contact Health Canada to dispense it but they could care less about anyone so we found out. Needless to say the Dr was not impressed. He actually had tried the end of June and then again the first week of August as my husband's left foot had started to turn black and we were preparing ourselves for either partial loss or complete loss of this foot. Everyday, 2-3 times a day it was a routine of peeling off bandages and soaking his feet in salt and water, then rewrapping them. It was a four month nightmare!
About 90% of our drs here are Afrikaanars so they are well aware of this problem and the cure. I did hours and hours of research online to educate myself on how we could deal with it. My husband ended up seeing his Dr 20/25 times. He had to be taken to the hospital to have needles put into the pockets of infection to have them drained. Some of the pockets were one inch wide by three inches long and protruding an inch off the surface of his skin.

There is a severe amount of pain associated with this as well as painful itching as you can well imagine. The trauma of knowing you have worms is terrible.

When I was doing research on this, I noticed Jamaica comes up fairly often with cases of it, even though I know it is in other places also.

Everyone that travels to a tropical place needs to be very aware of this problem as it can result in life or limb being lost as we found out.

Fortunately my husbands feet made a full recovery even though it took awhile for new skin to grow and toughen enough so he could put on shoes.

This is why I am asking if anyone has experienced this while in Jamaica.

I have never had this problem but I do recall another drug often used to treat this other than Albendazole. It is Mintezol. If by some chance I did contract it, I would head to a doc in Jamaica since I'm sure they are probably more familiar with treatment. So sorry to hear about your husband's unfortunate dilemma.

i do recall folks on these boards chatting about this . . . hope someone else pipes up with what worked! . . . what is the common name of these worms? ringworm?

I am so sorry to hear of you and your husbands terrible misfortune. I am hoping that he and you are well on the way to both physical and mental well recovery and well being.

Yes I have went thru this but my experience was nothing at all like yours, in fact the severity and description of your husbands ordeal differ quite a bit from mine.

I was diagnosed with Cutanous Larvae Migranis, unfortunately it can be picked up any where there is animal feces, especially when the animals have most likely not had any worm treatment.

My case was around 06, some soars on my right foot, upper part only and I believe one or two toes [top only]. Yes I could feel them moving around, but very little soarness or pain, but intense and I mean very intense itching, some minor burning. My local Dr. referred me to the Kansas City Infectious Disease Center kind of unsure of my condition, once I was seen by the specialist, he immediately made the diagnosis and even asked to photograph it for learning and intern purposes. I was prescribed Stromechtol which is code for Ivermectin and the Dr. prescribed 9 pills. After calling all over KC I found a CVS [back then Osco] that had 5 pills. My Dr. said go ahead that should do it. I remember within 20 to 30 minutes after taking the first pill that the parasite activity in my foot went crazy, almost as if they were trying to flee. By the next day the round red soars started to turn purple and black with a few lines also the same color. The itching and movement feeling went away immediately. The soars and lines turned black and literally peeled off, similar to flaking sun burnt skin. I missed 2 days of work and had no after effects at all. Co-workers would get a kick out of me taking my sock off and showing them.

I did get it on the beach but to be honest I have walked the same beach dozens of times since then and have not contracted it again. If you walk or mistakenly step around dog or cat feces in an area where the animals have not been wormed then that's your risk or vulnerability. I do now keep a more vigilant eye out but to be honest I still go bare footed on the beach with no hesitation.

Aware yes, scared no way. I am not to sure that loss of limb or life is common at all from this.

Hope this helps.

Jamb

Please don't ride those hoofless horses on the beach, too many time they don't dispose of poop. My suggestion would be to get in contact with the hotel that you stayed at for guidance. Dr's in Negril are on point with medications for treatment.

Why are those horses aloud on the beach? That drives me crazy every time I am there, they drop there loads every where and some of those young kids ride them like maniacs up and down the beach,is this not dangerous?

This is one of the reasons we do not hang around any place that has dogs or cats unless we are wearing shoes. So that leaves out any place on the beach that has dogs/cats since we never wear shoes on the beach. I know this will upset all the dog/cat lovers out there, but neither has a place near the beach. Hopefully owners of businesses on the beach are learning that dogs /cats are NOT an attraction but actually hurt their business.

Cprigirl,

Sorry to hear about you and your husband's experience, but glad to hear all is now well. Since hookworm is more common in the tropics (although it can be caught in other regions as well) - a quick trip to any pharmacist here on the island would have let you know a short treatment with Mintezol would have handled the whole thing very quickly. Children are the most common effected and they are treated without incident. There is even a brand of treatment marketed to parents here in colorful little boxes with a very cartoonish spelling of WORMS right on the label.

All the pain for your husband may have been caused by the what sounds like some kind of misdiagnosis of the hookworm problem.

According to the US CDC "Hookworm infection is mainly acquired by walking barefoot on contaminated soil." :

http://www.cdc.gov/parasites/hookworm/

Contrary to what you stated, there is no direct risk of loss of life or limb from hookworm - both the US CDC and the USA National Institute of Health dispute this conclusion. The CDC states "The most serious effects of hookworm infection are blood loss leading to anemia, in addition to protein loss. Hookworm infections are treatable with medication prescribed by your health care provider." Links to more information are provided below:

http://www.cdc.gov/parasites/hookworm/

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001653/

It would seem that your husband's original diagnosis may have missed infections that may have led to his hospitalization which in turn may have increased the risk of getting other infections which became part of his terrible 4 month ordeal. Even the USA CDC admits that at least 1.7 million Americans contract infections in US hospitals each year. There is a US organization that explains the problems contracting (HAI - hospital-acquired infections) that are a major issue in the US:

http://www.hospitalinfection.org/essentialfacts.shtml

Back in the 80's, I contracted hookworm on a cruise ship (no idea which island) and it was misdiagnosed when I got back to Ohio. Luckily enough, on my second visit to the doctor a second doctor happened to stop in and countered the useless and possibly harmful treatment I was receiving by the first doctor. A short treatment with the appropriate treatment quickly solved my problem.

Since Lisa and I have both lived here for nearly a combined 30 years, and neither of us have contracted it here, there are some simple things anyone can do to minimize the chance of getting hookworm. First, wear sandals when possible, walking barefoot at the shoreline or in the hot sand should not be a problem. Second dont walk barefoot in areas where you have seen cats or dogs hang out. Thirdly, as strange as this may sound, wear your sandals when going into darkened areas, walking around town or when using bathrooms at any establishment. It may seem like a no-brainer, but we have seen it done more often than we can count. And should you even suspect that something isnt right, just go to any of the local pharmacists as they will be able help you immediately.

God forbid it happening. How long after contact / exposure do the problems manifest?

Thanks for the info.

Sorry to hear about your husband's ordeal!! My husband contracted this on our honeymoon trip to Beaches Inn. We had alot of rain that week and figured he must have stepped in something in the damp sand. Doctor figured that the access point was probably some athlete's foot on my husband's foot. Took several weeks of doctor's appts to figure out what was wrong...MD gave him antibiotics, prescription creams for athlete's foot and anything else he could think of. Nothing worked and he finally referred him to a specialist who took one look and knew instantly what it was. Had to have the medication sent from someplace in Ottawa....one pill and the worm was gone! What a resilient little creature....

I had one track that seemed to last forever a few years ago. It finally went away.(Or maybe crawled deep inide?)

for Gail: "hoofless horses" do you mean they have no horseshoes? I have seem some riders moving way too quickly down the beach, not cool.

Skeeving at the very thought of going into a restroom barefoot!

Not that Wikipedia is the answer to everything but here is a link with some pictures and explanations.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cutaneous_larva_migrans

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by JitterBug

i do recall folks on these boards chatting about this . . . hope someone else pipes up with what worked! . . . what is the common name of these worms? ringworm?

---

It is a hookworm. If you look at a pic of it you'll know why it's called that. Two "fang type" hooks that it puts into your skin to drag itself along.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Jambarney

I am so sorry to hear of you and your husbands terrible misfortune. I am hoping that he and you are well on the way to both physical and mental well recovery and well being.

Yes I have went thru this but my experience was nothing at all like yours, in fact the severity and description of your husbands ordeal differ quite a bit from mine.

I was diagnosed with Cutanous Larvae Migranis, unfortunately it can be picked up any where there is animal feces, especially when the animals have most likely not had any worm treatment.

My case was around 06, some soars on my right foot, upper part only and I believe one or two toes [top only]. Yes I could feel them moving around, but very little soarness or pain, but intense and I mean very intense itching, some minor burning. My local Dr. referred me to the Kansas City Infectious Disease Center kind of unsure of my condition, once I was seen by the specialist, he immediately made the diagnosis and even asked to photograph it for learning and intern purposes. I was prescribed Stromechtol which is code for Ivermectin and the Dr. prescribed 9 pills. After calling all over KC I found a CVS [back then Osco] that had 5 pills. My Dr. said go ahead that should do it. I remember within 20 to 30 minutes after taking the first pill that the parasite activity in my foot went crazy, almost as if they were trying to flee. By the next day the round red soars started to turn purple and black with a few lines also the same color. The itching and movement feeling went away immediately. The soars and lines turned black and literally peeled off, similar to flaking sun burnt skin. I missed 2 days of work and had no after effects at all. Co-workers would get a kick out of me taking my sock off and showing them.

I did get it on the beach but to be honest I have walked the same beach dozens of times since then and have not contracted it again. If you walk or mistakenly step around dog or cat feces in an area where the animals have not been wormed then that's your risk or vulnerability. I do now keep a more vigilant eye out but to be honest I still go bare footed on the beach with no hesitation.

Aware yes, scared no way. I am not to sure that loss of limb or life is common at all from this.

Hope this helps.

Jamb

---

Even though your case wasn't as severe as my husband's, it is still horrible that you contracted it. We were fortunate in the fact that our Drs here are familiar with it, in fact hubby's Dr practiced in several South Sea islands so he was very acquainted with it.

If a person has been infected to extent my husband's feet were, it is because of the amount of infection from, as the Dr said, " the by-products" of the hookworm, including it's scales coming off it's body. Then, if you cannot get the meds needed, as we couldn't, it leaves you with the risk of losing limbs, etc. Also, if a person ingested hookworm and it was not diagnosed immediately, within days you can be near death if not caught, and yes that will result in death.

On satellite channels there is a program called "The Monsters Inside Me". There has been real life occurences told where this has happened. This is especially true with children, which as we know, always seem to have the habit of putting hands in their mouth. Also in my extensive research I have read of losing limbs and death occurring. There is also another problem that occurrs, and apparently this occurs often, and that is of becoming anemic.

I would not wish this hookworm problem on anybody....it truly was a nightmare.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by poolguywindsor

Why are those horses aloud on the beach? That drives me crazy every time I am there, they drop there loads every where and some of those young kids ride them like maniacs up and down the beach,is this not dangerous?

---

Several years ago in one of the island newspapers we had read an article about this very thing.....allowing horses on beaches. There was to have been a law forbidding this on 7 Mile beach. What happened....did it not go thru, or is it just not enforced?

We have watched horses "take a dump" and the kid riding the horse gets off, digs a big hole in the sand and buries it.

The hookworms then crawl to the surface and some unsuspecting "host" steps in it and they are infected. It makes us furious anytime we have seen it. What a filthy practice where there is a constant stream of people walking. After going thru what my hubby did, my blood boils even thinking about it.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Captain Oil

This is one of the reasons we do not hang around any place that has dogs or cats unless we are wearing shoes. So that leaves out any place on the beach that has dogs/cats since we never wear shoes on the beach. I know this will upset all the dog/cat lovers out there, but neither has a place near the beach. Hopefully owners of businesses on the beach are learning that dogs /cats are NOT an attraction but actually hurt their business.

---

We agree with you totally. A resort should not have dogs/cats on the property. I cringe when I see parents allowing their kids to walk around without footwear on lawns, sidewalks, etc. After what hubby went thru, we are not really concerned what animal lovers think either. The cat population on the property where we stay is out of control.....bad!!! No doubt it was on the beach area of this property that my husband contracted hookworm.

Great info Rob!

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by LLAP

God forbid it happening. How long after contact / exposure do the problems manifest?

Thanks for the info.

---

The larvae enter through the pores in your skin. They can instantly manifest themselves, but usually will take a few days to start by showing up as patches of red irritated skin. We have been told this by Drs we have spoken to, as well as the hours upon hours of reading I have done. In several medical journals, Drs. have found some rare cases of incubation for up to a year before manifesting themselves.

Cprigirl,

It seems that you are taking your husband's HIGHLY unusual reaction to the infections that he received from not treating the hookworm when he first felt the symptoms and saying things like it is "horrible you contracted it" to Jambarney. Huh? According to history, "Hookworms have infected human intestines since prehistoric times. It's only in the last two centuries that humans have discovered and come to understand them better.

Read more at Suite101: The History of Hookworms and Hookworm Disease | Suite101 http://suite101.com/article/the-hist...#ixzz2IGqV4CJv "


It has been a common, easily treatable ailment for years. Your husband obviously contracted additional infections that for whatever reason his body was not able to adequately fend off.

There is a program "Monsters Inside Me" that is meant to be an informational show - ALL HUMAN bodies possess a range of life forms inside them - many of them are needed for our daily proper health. To get rid of them would mean you would get sick.

The "by products" as your doctor mentioned can come from scratching the effected areas - adding whatever bacteria and germs on and under his fingernails to the hookworm effected areas. Hookworm cannot cause the loss of a limb, but the improper response to hookworm can cause infections that can lead to the problem. This is the same as not treating a small wound, allowing tetanus or gangrene to set in and losing the limb. It was the improper treatment that led to that outcome. Treated efficiently and correctly this is never the case.

The horse situation is something that we have all been wondering about since the practice had been stopped years ago, and then started back up. It is truly not the smartest thing. But that aside, proper treatment can and will work. You state that your husband was not able to get the meds needed - they are available here on a regular basis at all pharmacies.

And your statement "Also, if a person ingested hookworm and it was not diagnosed immediately, within days you can be near death if not caught, and yes that will result in death" is categorically false. Some people with hookworm live for years without treatment, some their entire life. You are misleading people and needlessly creating something out of nothing. What you state is simply not true. Hookworm has been around humans since humans were humans. That will not change.

It is a shame your husband had to endure what he had to endure - but presenting misleading "facts" does no one any good other than needlessly scare people. You need to do much more research.

Children in Jamaica get hookworm. While being a hassle and an un-needed expense, it is not life threatening. Please stop making it out to be something that it is not.

Rob: I am not sure that you know we live in Canada. Health Canada DOES NOT & HAS NOT put their stamp of approval on Ivermectin, Albiendazole, Mintezol, etc, etc. So therefore it is not available at any pharmacy. And yes the Dr did make an instant and CORRECT diagnosis, but if the meds to cure the problem is not available....well guess what happens......you suffer! And no, hubby DID NOT have additional infections, and NO he did not scratch, itch his feet. He was given a prescribed ointment that kept it under control for the itching. And YES I do know bodies contain lifeforms which we need. In all info we have been told by DOCTORS and reading "by-products" are referred to as coming from the hookworms themselves.....you know, POOP, PEE, SPIT, SCALES, etc. And YES, it can cause loss of limb when you donot have proper meds to bring it under control. And YES, you can lose your life if hookworms are ingested as the DOCTORS on the TV program I stated when it, for example, was not diagnosed properly and was allowed to progress. I have also read that in medical journals. Do you really think that my husband did not have blood tests thru this ordeal so that we did not know what was going on? He has an extremely well informed doctor, but once again when he tried twice to contact Health Canada for the dosage of meds that would have helped and there was no response we and he witnessed what was happening to hubby's feet. So please do not make light of something that was very, very, serious when it was no fault of my husbands. There was no "misleading facts", only what we know for a fact and have witnessed. When a Dr starts to show that he is very worried what the outcome may be without meds then it's time for the patient to also.

Also if some people can live with hookworms all their lives, although I assure you, I have never read this, nor was told by any doctors, then I guess all I can say is good on them.

I had a similar experience and I'm from Canada - Toronto. 19yrs ago i went home with a worm in my foot. It started itching on the plane. My son had me show all the kids at the daycare , he was 4. They loved the worm, however i did not, it was very itchy. I visited my GP,she prescribed a cream, i applied it , worm gone in a matter of days, much to the dismay of my son's daycare pals. I'm not sure why you have had such difficulty. I do know that mine was contracted via a mosquito bite and dirty floors in the cabin i stayed at.

Cprgirl,

Bummer man, Mintezol is available over the counter here...

Maybe it would be better use of your time to lobby to allow these useful and obvious necessary drugs to be prescribed in Canada since Health Canada did not respond.

Estimates are that some 700-800 million people are infected world wide by hookworm. Ask you doctor(s), are 700 to 800 million people dying per year world wide from hookworm?

I am not making light of anything, but that "facts" as you state them are simply false. Just because you didnt read something or your doctor didnt tell you something doesnt make it not true. You are misleading everyone on this forum and this will stop. That is a fact.....

Caribbeanprgrl...where in Canada do you live? Here in Ontario it wasn't a problem at all to get the med once the worm was properly diagnosed. I can't remember what the drug was...just that it was 1 lone pill that had to come from the University of Ottawa I think. This was 12 years ago...have had no problem since.
We always wear sandals on the beach when walking in the soft sand...only barefoot when walking right at the water edge.
Those horses on the beach really creep me out...wish they would disallow them :(

I have never had a problem yet, and hope I dont in the future. Sounds terrible. Glad your husband got better Cprgirl! Losing a limb or worse is nothing to take lightly! Everyone be careful around where the dogs and cats are on the beach!

I'm sorry your husband went through this ordeal and finally got it cleared up. I appreciate you taking the time to share this information. I wish all the best!

LOL. Rob, did you go to medical school? You seem to have more insight into this than a Dr. Fact is we all respond differently and to discount this ladies story as not true is sorta going out on a limb. People can make their own assumptions, and continuing to censor potential threats is reckless. What are your thoughts on dengue fever? I do not recall ever reading about it on this site, however I know of two confirmed cases in Oct. Now that I know it is a threat I am religious about wearing bug spray. Before not so religious.

Looks like the ole padlock will be making an appearance. again

interesting reading, although it adds to my laundry list of travel paranoias........I welcome the padlock, I think....:confused:

Booger,

Nothing is being censored, her posts are all still on the board as you can read for yourself. I am not discounting her story at all, but I am countering her false statements. I may not be a doctor, but a quick google search shows that the drug her doctor recommended, Ivermectin, which is a broad-spectrum antiparasitic avermectin medicine is available from pharmacies in Canada under the name Stromectol. It can be even be purchased online with the proper prescription at:

http://www.rxmedscanada.com/stromectol-ivermectin.php

The following site requests Canadian patients taking Stromectol to "In Canada - Call your doctor for medical advice about side effects. You may report side effects to Health Canada at 1-866-234-2345."

http://www.rxlist.com/stromectol-sid...rug-center.htm

Two Canadians, Dana1 and PattyK both state they received treatment for hookworm while in Canada. With all the above mentioned facts, it would seem that Cprgirl's statement "Health Canada DOES NOT & HAS NOT put their stamp of approval on Ivermectin" is incorrect.

The truth about hookworm can easily be found on the internet as well. The US National Institute of Health (the NIH) states that "Complications (from hookworm are) Iron deficiency anemia caused by loss of blood, Nutritional deficiencies, Severe protein loss with fluid buildup in the abdomen (ascites)".

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001653/

The World Health Organization (WHO) states "In children, chronic hookworm infection has been shown to impair physical and intellectual development, reduce school performance and attendance, and adversely affect future productivity and wage-earning potential."

http://www.who.int/vaccine_research/...en/index2.html

The US CDC (Center of Disease Control) states "Most people infected with hookworms have no symptoms. Some have gastrointestinal symptoms, especially persons who are infected for the first time. The most serious effects of hookworm infection are blood loss leading to anemia, in addition to protein loss. Hookworm infections are treatable with medication prescribed by your health care provider."

http://www.cdc.gov/parasites/hookworm/disease.html

None of these respected health sources make any mention of "life or limb being lost", so that would seem to point out the fact the Cprgirl's assertion is also incorrect.

In my earlier posts, I made mention that there seemed to be other factors at play in this problem, including infections possibly picked up from the hospital or by scratching. Interestingly enough the CDC states "Scratching at the lines can cause a bacterial infection. Your doctor may decide to treat you to control the symptoms and prevent a bacterial infection."

http://www.cdc.gov/parasites/zoonoti...m/disease.html

So it is clear that doctors prescribe treatments to prevent scratching that can cause infections.

Cprgirl stated that "There is a severe amount of pain associated with this as well as painful itching as you can well imagine". She also stated that " He had to be taken to the hospital to have needles put into the pockets of infection to have them drained."

So while there is no mention in any of the CDC, NIH or WHO documentation about hookworm causing infections, Cprgirl's husband's was "prescribed ointment that kept it (scratching) under control for the itching" and he had infections that needed to be drained. So it would seem that "hubby DID NOT have additional infections, and NO he did not scratch, itch his feet. He was given a prescribed ointment that kept it under control for the itching" actually points to the much more likely assertion that he did have additional infections caused by scratching which is why the doctor prescribed the anti-itch medication.

There are an estimated 700-800 million people with hookworms worldwide:

http://www.uptodate.com/contents/hookworm-infection

According to the World Health Organization, there were 11 deaths total caused by hookworm in a total of 7 countries worldwide - Jamaica NOT being one of them.

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/mo...kworm-diseases

That works out to be a percentage of .0000146% - or slightly over a one hundred thousandth of 1 percent. More people die in elevators and escalator accidents in the USA per year than die of hookworm worldwide.

Negril.com let Cprgirl make her post about her husband's experience with hookworm. We always welcome truthful, accurate and helpful information to be posted as it benefits everyone. But as with rumor and speculation, presenting any kind of misleading or misinformed information benefits no one. I understand that Cprgirl is extremely emotional about the issue, but misrepresenting the facts of hookworm is not helpful to anyone.

I had ringworm when I was at ice hockey camp in Minnesota.

I know. "Cool story bro"

I love this board and I love the information provided! Thank you.

Eww, and I thought the lice epidemic in my school was bad lol.

If you really want to worry....I heard that worldwide there is a high death rate from, of all things, falling coconuts.....

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Flipadelphia26

I had ringworm when I was at ice hockey camp in Minnesota.

I know. "Cool story bro"

---

BWAHAHAHAHA!! This made me spit water on my screen!! :D

When i was in Kauai a guy had recently been killed by falling coconut. true story

Booger,

Also, after a simple search on the site, dengue has been mentioned in 9 posts in 5 different threads.... just because you dont recall something does not mean that it does not exist...

I got hookworm in Bahamas 35 years ago and was given cream that quickly solved the problem after a visit to my doctor back home in Canada. I have been buying Ivermectin for my horses in Canada for a number of years but don't know if it is available for humans. Sure hope I never get hit on the head by a falling coconut! :)

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by lisapat

If you really want to worry....I heard that worldwide there is a high death rate from, of all things, falling coconuts.....

---

One of the most courageous things you can do is sit under a coconut tree. I you you don't get hit and killed by a falling coconut the red ants will eat your ras***t

Worst thing that ever happened to us was when we were building the house and literally living in the bush and got really bit up. Started scratching the bites and developed Impetigo.

Being new to the bush and a mariner to boot led to a very serious situation. A run of tetracycline cured us but ignorance damn near killed us.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Flipadelphia26

I had ringworm when I was at ice hockey camp in Minnesota.

I know. "Cool story bro"

---

Flip,
Now that was funny........


Doc,
It's pointless to even respond to you..........

So how about them 49er's? If I was in Negril for the big game I would surely take in the game at Seastar. You see, Chris is one expat who understands his customer........