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Recently heard this from someone who works at NBCC, Someone died on the property a few days back from a heart attack.
No ambulance was available and the persons body remained on the pool deck for 8-9 hours until police arrived to investigate.
I wonder why nobody at the beach club attempted to call a doctor, Is doctor radomski (spelling?) still in Negril? or the female doc downtown??
Rob
Sad. I hate to hear that. I can only imagine what the persons family was going through.
So true! :(
I hear her son & daughter watched as someone tried CPR for about an hour without success :(
It's unfortunate that unlike many AI's the hotel (NBCC) doesn't have a medical person on call or even a first aid kit/defibrillator as many AI's I've been to in Montego Bay have a kit like this on hand god forbid it happens along with employee training on how to use it.
This is the second time in 30 days someone has died like this in Negril and no ambulance was available, last was a Italian teacher at a guest house in Jan.
Since these are obviously a second hand story at best, and the Negril rumor mill being as active as it is - I am hesitant to make any firm statements of fact about this case. I heard that the person who had the heart attack died walking to the beach from the road along a beach access area and not at any specific hotel property. That being said, several hotels in Negril do have trained staff and defibrillators on property such as Seastar Inn.
While our thoughts and prayers go out to the family, there is an ambulance in Negril with trained EMTs with proper medical supplies and it serves the Negril and the surrounding areas. It can often be heard rushing to an emergency.
Since I was not present nor have any detailed knowledge of either incident, it is always a possibility that the ambulance was already on a call as it does serve the local community. And reality being what it is, once a person is dead, there is no need for the ambulance as there is nothing they can do and it does become a police matter and the coroner and morgue become involved. I know this as I was at a hotel when a wife discovered that her husband had passed in his sleep. It is no longer a medical issue so the proper channels seemed to have been followed in case described above.
As for an Italian teacher dying in a guest house- this story was reported in Star back on January 9th, nearly two months go. She was an advanced cancer patient and died while waiting to be transported to the hospital. Once again, our thoughts and prayers go out to her famly and friends.
http://jamaica-star.com/thestar/2013...ews/news5.html
There are no real further details so to make any firm statements or judgments amount to nothing more than rumor and speculation, which truly serve no useful purpose.
As someone who's family member Needed medical help, (heart trouble) I was Impressed with the EMTs
Maybe Negril is now in need of another ambulance. (100j per guess to update EMT services?)
with the heat in Jamaica, it is sad that a body has to wait in the elements to be removed and sent to the morgue. perhaps there needs to be more than one ME avaliable or a certain police officer on call at all times to make those calls. I can only imagine how devastated the family must have been to see their loved one lay for several hours in the sun. I for one would love to see another ambulance in the Negril area and I am sure the locals who live here would like one as well, it most likely is a matter of funds to support/purchase/man another one.
No excuses.
we were traveling in Jamaica when very little help for medical was available in West End.......we took chances we shouldn't have, and got away with it, seems fate is not so forgiving these days??
For a part of the Island that was the last to get rolling more or less andwith the monies available to spend they are making big strides...not that long ago IT WAS a sleepy little fishing village.......
We are use to having The Finest Medical services at our beck and call........(in 1984 we spent two days looking for gauze compress and tape....)...they have came a long way, and no doubt will continue togo forward....but with money tight things do wait their turn, sometimes unfairly....But seeing the progress they have made since we have been watching is amazing, actually much faster then it took place in the US for the early years.......
Talk about what you know and not heard, a death of a natural cause is not fodder for the rumor mill
what a horrible tragedy to experience whether on holiday or home.
however, one must consider this when visiting an island with limited resources.
friends of ours lost their dad on a cruise ship a few years back.
they kept him in a walk-in cooler until the ship docked.
and then there was the paper work...
if this is the case, having your loved one's body lying on a pool deck for 8-9 hours in warm weather seems harsh and unnecessary for the living to see
and probably doesn't make the open casket option easy on the mortician.
many times under stress.... minutes can seem to be hours.......personally as a ex law enforcement officer, and knowing somewhat the "runnins" in Jamaica, I no doubt that length of time to be possibly stretched a bit from what really happened- maybe not? just my opinion.......either way I would assume the remains would be under cover and away from "prying" eyes, and the family sheltered close by..........
sad anywhere for sure-God Bless Him
What I posted came from a very reliable source that has worked on the property for many, many years and has no reason to lie to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rambo
It was VERIFIED the ambulance was in a garage when this happened, I confirmed this with a high-rank member of the JCF in Westmoreland.
Maybe you should talk what YOU know, MON.
Rob
Maybe the Coroner needed to attend the scene before the body could be removed. That's how it works in Ontario Canada and sometimes the coroner can take forever to arrive or so it seems at the time.
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Originally Posted by Jaherring
That's the thing, Some people on Negril.com would rather make excuses for this vs. face reality.
Negril has Ambulance service but if the Ambulance is constantly IN A GARAGE what good is it? I mean, I understand vehicles break down/need to undergo maintenance as I'm stationed at US Army Ft. Dix as a mechanic and have experience in this BUT you would think a major tourist destination such as Negril would have a one-for-one backup like many rescue squads here in the states have.
Negril needs a Hospital, It's ironic because the Negril Beach Club/Mariners Beach Club was originally intended to be the Negril Hospital years ago when the place was constructed.
That's 100% understandable, I agree with you that it's proper procedure to wait for the coroner but it's the Ambulance issue that makes no sense.
Rob
Where did you hear the ambulance is constantly in the garage? A little odd considering it's a relatively new vehicle and we see it regularly driving around town going to emergencies. And, there's hundreds of people in this forum who have witnessed it with us during the webcasts. How would this be possible if it's constantly in the garage?Quote:
Originally Posted by FTDIXUSA
And, I don't see any excuses being made...I just see some people actually understanding the logistics of medical care in a developing country. This isn't the States/a first world country.
I am suprised that this thread has not been deleted yet.
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Originally Posted by bigga
Ahhh yes, me toooooo
Just wait.....its coming.
Tell me, Why did the JCF inform those involved it has been in the garage?
So, Are you saying the JCF lied and told the family/those involved that the Ambulance was garaged when in reality it's been driving around the whole time? I find that strange...
If the Ambulance just so happened to be out of service that day, Don't you think a second Ambulance should be stationed in Negril?
A lot of things about Jamaica involving the authorities make little to no sense, Maybe this is one of them!
There are thousands of visitors to Negril who have seen the ambulance on runs with their own eyes. They dont need to rely on "very reliable sources" because they know they have seen it. Jimbo has had a family member treated by the ambulance and was impressed with their service. To claim that the ambulance is constantly in the garage goes against reality. It may have been in the garage for this situation - but it is most certainly not constantly in the garage.
Since the original poster has absolutely no first hand knowledge of the event in question - his speculative posts are serving no benefit to anyone.
The developing nation of Jamaica is not the United States and the village of Negril (it is not even large enough to be considered a town yet) cannot be compared to "many states". Of course a second and even a third ambulance would be great to have available, but that is not the case at the moment as it is in many small villages even in North America.
There is a new hospital being planned to service the Negril area - which will change the situation entirely. Maybe it would be better to direct the energies to make this happen.
Our hearts go out the family and friends of the fellow who had the heart attack, but this pointless and useless speculation will stop now. This thread is closed.