I have read the new smoking ban but it does not mention if smoking is allowed outdoors, on the beach. For those that may be in Jamaica after July 15th, is smoking allowed on the beach? What are observations concerning this?
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I have read the new smoking ban but it does not mention if smoking is allowed outdoors, on the beach. For those that may be in Jamaica after July 15th, is smoking allowed on the beach? What are observations concerning this?
This is just a commonsense ban on smoking in confined places. I don't believe it extends (or ever intends to extend) to outdoors unless, of course, smoking is declared a killer like it is somewhat now.Quote:
Originally Posted by bmsmith
Ganja smoking is still illegal indoors or outdoors but that too may be changing.
Peace and Guidance
Once the smoke clears on this issue, I am sure people will realize that there will be ample open areas to smoke tobacco or herb of choice. Now, if they could only ban the burning of plastic bottles...
Whoa...banning outdoor smoking? Before they do that can they please pass a law banning people from blowing their noses in the water? Come on. Priorities please!
I was there and got around quite a bit -- and no one seemed to care about smoking ...
Not a good analogy. Last time I checked blowing noses in the water (although messy) didn't cause lung cancer. I take the stand that all smoking of cancer causing substances should be banned indoors and out. Ganja (the last I checked) would not be banned using that criteria.Quote:
Originally Posted by dash
That is where the priority should be.
Peace and Guidance
" I take the stand that all smoking of cancer causing substances should be banned indoors and out. Ganja (the last I checked) would not be banned using that criteria.
That is where the priority should be."
I will second that stand....why when it is proven BEYOND a doubt that smoking cigs causes cancer/other fatal lung problems.......I am a ex-smoker, and married to a nurse(doesn't smoke).............and its true what they say....The longer it has been after you quit, the worse the second hand smoke reeks.......why pay $$ to harm yourself ????
I have very poor self-control so if I can quit anybody can.........its not easy, but life was never meant to be easy, just rewarding and fulfilling.........ask for Gods help, or anybody's help ....getting tired of seeing names on this board passing away, quit making dying easier..
Not meant to be taken seriously Accompong. As I chug along in my carcinogen spewing minivan to Negril past smouldering piles of garbage assaulting the atmosphere to my coal fired AC room, I think second hand smoke on the beach would not be first on my enemies list.Quote:
Originally Posted by Accompong
Dash,Quote:
Originally Posted by dash
And conveniently enough, second hand smoke on the beach is not first on anyone's list.... even the Jamaican government.
To all,
This seems like much ado about nothing on many people's part....
Thanks, Gerryg for reply. Rob, thanks for setting it straight..I just wanted answer to my simple question...
just put the butts in the trash
don't bury them in the sand
make them swim in the sea
or just fling them
that's the other nasty part
One last comment from me. This is a universal problem not limited to Jamaica.
Your worried about people blowing there nose in the sea when everyone is peeing in the sea??lol.
A likkle update on where things are now..
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Dr. Fenton Ferguson the Minister of Health has indicated that he is willing to look at the possibility of allowing businesses, particularly ones in the tourism industry to have designated areas for smoking. The Minister stated that he is not opposed to having areas for smokers after he paid a visit to a popular hotel where there is a designated area for smoking. Minister Ferguson was speaking on the Jamaica Information Service Programme “Issues and Answers” on July 18.
We were in Negril last week and was told about the smoking ban but everywhere we went we were aloud to smoke at the bar or at our dinner table , accept for the German Bar , they now have a designated smoking area outside the bar on the open cliff patio.
How was your trip Roy?
AS Rob inferred, I doubt that the enforcement of this smoking ban is high on the list of those who would be required to enforce it.
So, feel free to spew a known carcinogen that has proven to be deadly to you and to those that may have the unfortunate circumstance of being near you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Weathermon & Mi Lady
Yes, because if it wasn't for cigarettes, there would be no carcinogens floating around. None from cars, none from grills, none from motorcycles, none from fires, none from aerosols, zero. Nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lax1724
Seriously, though, the considerate thing for smokers to do is simply take it outside and/or step away from any crowd before you light up.
Ironically enough, Hedo (the zoo) was one of the first resorts to ban smoking in the main dining room and all rooms, which was at least a couple of years ago!
I do still smoke but never liter the beach with my butts!
we are from ontario canada, i feel weird smoking anything at a bar or restaurant in negril, i will go outside and walk a few steps away so my smoke does not effect other people, this is called respect, here in Canada we have laws that state we cannot smoke 30 feet from some business entrances, we stay at Rooms and they do not allow smoking in your room, no problem, i just go outside, soon come
A typical and tired argument. Not to mention that if more smokers were considerate, we would not be having these conversations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Muck
I can't see how this is anything but a good thing? Nobody wants to be around second hand smoke. Just a little common sense and decency goes a long way. :)
Yet, a valid argument as well. Cigarette smoke dissipates outdoors and unless someone is blowing smoke right in your face, the harm from second hand cigarette smoke is no worse than any of the other countless sources that emit carginogens also floating through the air, especially with all the open air foodstands and restaurants in Negril that are cooking meat over charcoal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lax1724
I do agree with you, however, that cigarette smokers need to be considerate of others around them. I only smoke on occassion when I have a few drinks, but I would never light up indoors or even in an open-air restaurant. It's not that difficult to step away from the crowd. And if I see someone throwing their butts on the ground, I typically speak up.
As far as the smell is concerned, I'm not sure we want to get in the business of banning things just because we are offended by the odor. That is a very slippery slope.
Second hand smoke is annoying. Once you're beyond a 3 to 5 foot range, it isn't any more dangerous than the auto emission filled air we normally breathe. The actual danger tends to be greatly overstated. That said, as a smoker I don't have any desire to annoy others and have no problem not smoking in enclosed public places. I remember when people smoked in airplanes, hospitals and supermarkets. It was not a good thing.
As a non-smoker, I really don't understand why people smoke in the first place. I have friends that have told me that they had self esteem issues when they were young and smoked so that they would be perceived as cool. I have other friends that smoke but they never completed high school so they aren't very bright. I asked my great grandmother why she smoked and she said when she was young, no one knew that smoking was as dangerous as it is and that the warnings didn't come out until the mid-fifties. I think most of the people that were unaware of the overstated dangers are dead by now. My great grandma is still alive but she lives in an iron lung. On the other hand, I completely understand why people grill and why they drive cars.
There are many things people do that I don't quite understand either. Human beings really are a complete mystery...Quote:
Originally Posted by Lax1724
http://www.og.nr/rbt/16261-ban-on-sm...l#.UfZOLRjD-1s
Update on smoking ban. Adjustments being considered.
Peace and Guidance
I'm not surprised.Quote:
Originally Posted by Accompong
While I understand there has been talk for quite some time that there could be new smoking restrictions in Jamaica, this new "edict" seemed (to me, anyways) a little too rushed and open to interpretation. And as such, practically impossible to enforce.
It will be interesting to see what types of adjustments will be made. I'm also wondering if we get to see an actual law clearly defined and spelled out, rather than the vague quotes from officials we've been seeing in the news.
the rule will be "adjusted" to suit the needs of each location, it is way too vague to "blanket" everybody/everyplace.........
then it can be "re-hashed" all over again...:) Dats wha makes di world go round,different strokes