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Does anyone know the policy on bringing cremains with you? Or if its hide able I can't imagine it is... I'm not the richest person but I really would like to let my brother "experience" the "water or beach in Jamaica"... just a little not all of him... If its not allowed I'll understand.
many on this board have posted they have done it.....answers should be forth coming............its were I would want to go......
I know where I live you have to have a permit to scatter ashes anywhere..
When I made beads, people would mix a bit of ashes into the molten glass to have a bead made. You could melt some glass and put a bit in to make a small glass stone, the piece of glass would be easy to take to Jamaica. Then at sunset you could put it in the sand and let the ocean take it out into the water
I took my Father's cremains to Costa Rica with me in an old film container. I released some in the ocean so he could alway be where he loved to be, some up in the Cloud Forest with the most amazing "forever view"......
The funeral home/crematorium should be able to provide you with a certificate (no charge) to take your brother's cremains internationally and you won't have any problems with TSA. This way you shouldn't have any issues bringing his cremains to Jamaica. My priest advised me to get this certificate, so I can take my Mom's ashes to Scotland. A note in the certificate says that you aren't supposed to spread the ashes in bodies of water......, but I don't think many follow that!
On one of my visits JA, an elderly lady carried the urn on the plane in Charlotte. I didn't follow her thru security, but I saw her at the gate and nobody was going to pry that urn from her hands.....
beebeluv, that certificate is really important, i almost was not able to take my mom's ashes home to the UK because we didn't get the certificate 1st (we didn't know what we were going to do with them at first). luckily the funeral home made an exception but they could have easily said sorry, rules are rules.Quote:
Originally Posted by NRV
although if you are only taking a small portion it will probably be easy enough to tuck it into your case, but if they find it i'm not sure what the consequences will be.
i've instructed my best friend to bring my ashes to negril, that's where i want to be forever!
Beebe, I hope you get this figured out. What a beautiful thought. Much love <3
Transportation of Human Remains to Jamaica
All arrangements, including the payment of expenses, for the transportation of human remains are the responsibility of the family members of the deceased.
The family should:
contact a funeral home in the relevant country to handle all arrangements for transportation of the body, including with the airline for flying the body home;
seek permission in writing from the pertinent authority in the particular area where death occurred, for the body to be released to the funeral home;
contact a funeral home in Jamaica to receive the body on arrival and make arrangements for burial.
The following documents must accompany the body to Jamaica:
Official Death Certificate/Post Mortem Report, issued by the pertinent authority;
Certificate of Release (Transit Permit), providing the name and age of the deceased;
Embalming Certificate, issued by the appropriate authority indicating the manner in which the body was prepared and that the coffin contains only the body in question;
Statement of Assurance that the remains have been placed in a hermetically sealed (air tight) casket; or a lead coffin, in cases where persons died from communicable diseases.
If the remains have been cremated, the accompanying documents should be:
Cremation certificate
Official death certificate/post mortem report
Certificate of release (transit permit)
Permit from the Health Department of the Kingston and St. Andrew Corporation or their equivalent in Montego Bay.
The remains will be examined and detained by Customs at the airport until the permit has been obtained. The permit is also obtainable prior to arrival of the human remains. Documents may be faxed to the KSAC Department (1876) 754-4483.
thank you I have most of those already.... we shall see
If the remains have been cremated, the accompanying documents should be:
Cremation certificate
Official death certificate/post mortem report
Certificate of release (transit permit)
Permit from the Health Department of the Kingston and St. Andrew Corporation or their equivalent in Montego Bay.
The remains will be examined and detained by Customs at the airport until the permit has been obtained. The permit is also obtainable prior to arrival of the human remains. Documents may be faxed to the KSAC Department (1876) 754-4483.
follow this process and u should have no worries at all. the best would be to get the permit before u travel to avoid having to leave ur loved one at the airport, taxi to get the permit, pay the fee and go back thru customs to have ur loved one returned to u (which should b a straight forward process however not all customs reps understanding of the process is the same).
when i brought my sisters' cremains on island, it was a huge emotional mashup. i did not hide her well and did not have any of the documents needed. she was confiscated and i had to go get documents,pay and return to airport customs to fight to get the cremains back..... totally out of order considering i had done what they required. not something i would want to hear of anyone having to deal with!
years later i brought part of my mothers' cremains on island with no problems. not having the JA permit and did not want to leave her at the airport and come back, i hid the cremains and walked thru customs with no problems at all.
please do keep in mind that altho some have no qualms with cremains, many jamaicas do.
Beebeluv I hope you get it all sorted out. I'm sorry to hear you've lost your brother.
letter from funeral home for transport of cremains - they know what to type up.
death certificate
cremains in plastic container with screw on lid so it doesn't open
I did not request any permit from the JA govt
Had an ash scattering ceremony at a property in the west end where employees were aware of our intent
the emotional toll of getting caught trying to be sneaky about this isn't worth it in my opinion
Beebeluv just wants to take a little of her brothers ashes not all of them with her, would that apply too? I definitely would want it in something secure.
im just worried about security mostly... I dont want them thinking its drugs or something suspisious... tsa can be quite harsh especially at lax
i was thinking about mixing some with water and putting it in a 3oz. container with my toiletries... last time those weren't even looked at.
Thank you very much... This has alot to do with me wanting to go back soo bad and why I paused soo long on my trip report. He left in a violent way and I want him to rest in a peaceful place... negril is the most peaceful place I can think of.Quote:
Originally Posted by Angel
Beebeluv if it were me I would not mix it with anything liquid. You are just wanting to take some ashes right? I would put some in a sealed bottle. Again it made me so sorry to hear how your brother passed on. May he rest in peace.
We've done it, but asked no permission and carried nothing but the ashes is a non-descript container.