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Yes. The place we stayed last February, mid beach, had been robbed 4 times in the previous week.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob
Absolutely! Negril is my favorite place in the world! I'll be back next week, and can't wait! The vibe is still certainly there still!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lola
However, bad things happen, and I see no help in sugar coating things.
Whoops, now I am the one who read too fast and missed the detail, my response was intended for KIBBY.
From my perspective as a most of the year resident of Jamaica is that petty crimes often don't get reported whether they be perpetrated on locals or tourists. Frankly I think many instances that do get reported here on N.com are by people who speculate on what may have occurred to someone else or heresay accounts of what they heard. Most of the time (I believe but I might be wrong) the actual victims don't relate their first-hand accounts of the crime. The majority of the deletions are from those speculation threads because they are just unfounded or unsubstantiated rumors or "suss" and that misinformation only makes the actual truth harder to discern.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiknback
Rob and Lisa (I am sure) hear many different accounts of these incidents from all sides. Rob tries to set the record straight when he believes he knows the true account of the incident when a rumor mill thread begins to be hashed and re-hashed to a point that the truth no longer resembles what actually happened.
Above all you have to take into account that N.com exists to promote tourism to Negril and to Jamaica as a whole. You want the news then you have to check the Gleaner or the Observer, watch TV or listen to the radio.
Just my personal observation.
Peace and Guidance
Hey what do think about first responders to accidents in Negril ? It was a shocking emergency response to the accident at the resort on tuesday 28th. Maybe a life could have been saved if we had a hospital in Negril. It has been 3 years now in the making but the powers that be will NOT sign off on the land for lease/sale. It belongs to the people but controlled by UDC ,it is just beyound the bridge pass the new development and RIU going towards MoBay. Each time we meet with them criteria has to be fullfilled within certain dates, but when that is done they keep moving the goal post. There must be a reason why they do not want this hospital which will be so,so good for the island and the people in Negril.
Come on people get behind this project and show what people power can do please !!!!
Kikn,Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiknback
Since you know about the 4 robberies that happened the previous week last February and you see no help in sugar coating things, why are you not mentioning the name of the property in question and offering details of the robberies so that others may benefit from this information?
And if you notice, this is being reported here right now, so to say it is not reported only comes down to the fact that you didnt report it in the first place.
Please present the details about the robberies so others may benefit in the future. If you are certain it happened just as you heard it did, then others can be helped.
But please do not blame us for you not reporting something that you know, that cannot be our fault.
Hear, Hear! Negril.com as well as me and Lisa have been behind this project since day one! Perhaps some of the folks spending so much time discussing me and Lisa's personal life and on rumor and speculation about events they know very little if anything about actually DID something to help, we may be further along than we are now. The waste of their potentially valuable time is shameful.Quote:
Originally Posted by finestyle
Why doesnt everyone take time out today to contact the NIH http://www.negrilinternationalwellnessfoundation.org/ and ask who they can write to to get this project sped up. You can also donate to the cause - become part of the solution, not part of the problem!
bam!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by rob
I posted here because I haven't been to Negril in 20 years and based on some previous posts, I just wanted to get a sense of how things are now in comparison to 2 decades ago. In case I didn't mention, I had travellers checks taken 23 years ago in Negril...I got too comfortable and left things unlocked.
In the 80s, while I didn't stay at the beach, we walked aboout town and on the beach and I never felt unsafe. I'm assuming that I will see a lot of changes in that respect---no Margaritavilles, only 2 AIs back then and more undeveloped beach property. And while there were hustlers around, it sounds like that has increased as well.
I found this site after I booked my tickets a few weeks ago. I must say had I seen it before with all the posts about how bad things are I might have thought twice. But I also believe that Jamaica is a place you either hate or love....and if you love it, it is forever in your blood! I have thought of Negril, Bird Mountain, the hills so many times over the past 20 years. While I am only iin my early 40s, I feel the need to go back, at least once more, in my lifetime.
I appreciate everyone taking the time to share their thoughts about the dos and dont's....
Can anyone explain the taxi situation? Where to get a taxi, which are safe or approved? And finally, I'm still deciding on how to go about money---bring cash, debit cards or those ancient things known as travellers checks?
warmest regards
i have never had any problems in negril day or night.been goin there for years.i am not afraid of a couple of punks thinkin they are gonna rob me!!!they better have guns and know how to use them!!!
Cars with red license plates are properly insured and licensed to carry passengers.Quote:
Originally Posted by kibby
A "Route" cab takes as many passengers as they can fit in the car. Rate is 1.25 US per leg. In Negril one leg is the beach and the other is the cliffs (West End)
A private cab costs more (about 1.5 times) but it's a lot more comfortable and once you find a driver you can call him pretty much any time
I recommend Linston @ www.redplate-negril.com and a transportation sponsor here at negril.com
To be fair I should mention he's my son so I may be a bit slanted (lol) Fell free to contact hm or me for any information that will make your visit easier.
Cap
Thanks! I may PM about an airport ride. I'm arriving alone...thought about Juta, but maybe will go the private taxi route!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by captaind
Well, quite frankly, I did not feel the need. We showed up with no reservations in the middle of high season. All of our regular places were booked up. The place we ended up staying at was a small hotel run by a lovely woman. A small place, I have never once heard the hotel name mentioned here or anywhere else online. The owner informed us of the recent robberies, we still booked, and our stay was fine and uneventful. The report of the robbery was secondhand, from the hotel owner and a neighbor, so I felt no need to say anything negative about the place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob
But yeah, I probably could have said something so that others could be warned. Like Kahuna, these robberies were simple and preventable. Lock your windows. Problem would have been solved. Thief entered from an unlocked window every time. And, again rumor and heresay, but was told that in at least two of the robberies the window had been unlocked earlier in the evening by a hooker invited in the room earlier.
But, rather than reporting it, when I hear about this and other easily preventable incidents, I will simply give advice for people to avoid the issue. Don't walk the beach at night. Lock your doors and windows at night. And if you bring a hooker home you are only asking for problems. I have heard of several incidents, but pretty much all of them have been easily preventable.
But, sorry Rob, I don't think I hear about a fraction of the incidents involving tourists here or anywhere else. I believe Suzan is absolutely correct.
So Gee,now fo the Second time you refuse to name the hotel but you also say you want to stay at a safe place? So,why don't you say the name of the hotel to "warn" others????Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiknback
Sounds like a nice coat of sugar to me.... with a touch of hypocrisy thrown in for good measure. You speculate that only a fraction of incidents are reported here, and complain about that on Negril.com. Yet you feel perfectly within your rights to decide what should be reported or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiknback
None of us at the staff of Negril.com would ever make a decision like that. If it happened, it happened, it is not up to us to choose what gets reported or not. Other than when the privacy issues of the victim become involved, actual incidents should, can and are being reported here.
Four robberies happen at a single property in a single week and and no one reports even one of them anywhere? And the owner "warns" you of this before you check in? This makes me think, or raises my "spidey sense" as some have called it. Something just doesnt sound right about this, there may be more to this story than any of us know...
So now these 4 completely vague, second hand, speculative, non-informational or beneficial alleged robberies have been reported here. The information can offer no benefit or help to any of the readers of this board other than they may or may not have occurred.
I stand by what I wrote:
"Because of cellphones, smartphones, Negril.com, Twitter, Facebook, OGNR, the Gleaner, the Observer, the Star, Youtube, personal blogs, Tripadvisor, visitors own local newspapers and countless other resources available to everyone on the internet at a moment's notice, there are very few real incidents (along with a few fake ones) that do not make it to the internet nowadays. And with Negril.com being the largest Negril information source available, the true incidents do tend to make it here. To think otherwise is not understanding the reality of how invasive and fast information travels in the world today."
You and Suzen can disagree, but you are the one making decisions about what gets reported or doesnt get reported, not Negril.com...
These incident's happened. I choose not to report the name because I feel no need to punish the poor hotel owner because a guest brought a hooker home. Particularly because the place is small, has no internet presence, and is amost certainly not booked for any Negril.com visitor's vacation.
It might be more helpful to publish the name of the larger, more frequently booked hotel that the thief reportedly also hit. But that would be rumor, and, of course, unallowed. I've probably already said too much.
But yes, it did happen. And many, many more unreported. I am sure every repeat visitor can name dozens examples of "incidents" happening. Almost all of these involve some sort of rumor, so they cannot be reported on here. But, almost all cases, something happened.
I never said that all incidents should be reported on here. Quite the opposite. I siad that is impossible.
And to suggest that you do, is simply wrong. Crime happens every single day. Only a small percentage is reported here or anywhere else.
Kikn,
Anyone can say anything, but facts are facts. If you hear a rumor, that does not automatically mean it is true. In fact, it means the exact opposite, that it may not be true.
That is why rumor and speculation serve no useful purpose. You have no facts to back up your claim that a larger, more frequently booked hotel was "also hit" other than the rumors you heard. To claim something happened with no facts to back it up is irresponsible at best. And it would be irresponsible to allow it to be posted here.
I know more than a dozen repeat visitors that can name all kinds of wild stories that they have heard and they know for a fact that the rumors are not true because they were there when and where the rumored event supposedly happened. In fact, this exact thing happened to us just yesterday!
For you to say that in almost all cases, something happened is nothing but pure speculation on your part. You are making a guess.
If you have facts, please state them.
But the fact remains that there are no travel warnings from any country about Negril, unlike the US Travel Warning about the Bahamas released yesterday. State Departments from countries around the world consider Negril to be a safe place to visit.
There is very little tourist crime in Negril. Is there none? Of course not, there are first hand incidents reported right here that go back 30+ years. But most of the rumors and speculation that you hear about is simply that - rumor and speculation with no basis in fact.
Anyone can say anything... but facts speak for themselves.
Gee,if the robberies were not reported? How did You find out?
Yeah that's right,dont punish the poor hotel but let folks continue to go there and get robbed???
If I go to a restaurant and got sick,,I would use this board to warn others.....
You sound like,,I got robbed but dont want report the guy because he may get in trouble???? Do you work for Trip Advisor?
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Originally Posted by Fred Stripe
LOL! Not to downplay Kikn's points, that just made me laugh....