I think at least some of that naivete has to do with forums that don't allow free talk. Trip Advisor is a great example, any thread like this would be censored very quickly.
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No one is saying it's not prevalent in Negril....but GerryG is telling everyone that it's okay to smoke almost anywhere in Jamaica which is absolutely not true & this becomes a disservice to those that don't want to be exposed to it.
Everyone should be informed that there are places that are not okay with people just lighting up at their convenience....too many go around thinking & doing as Gerry does.
It is simple...ask first out of respect for the owner of the establishment, other patrons & the law.
Just eat cake !!! I am sure you can eat that stuff anywhere !! Problem solved lol
With legalization effors proving succesful in the States, you have to think that it won't be long before countries such as Jamiaca also move forward with some type of decriminalization or legalization of ganja as well, right? It's probably not "if", but "when" it happens.
Agreed...It was meant to be a general comment but to avoid any confusion, my response was mostly directed at Westender's comments as far as this thread is concerned. Hopefully someday soon this topic will be as cut and dry as "where can I get a cold Red Stripe" and not rise to the level of " How do I use Route Taxi's"
Seriously ....... Ganja in that circle is "don't ask, don't tell". Ganja is a part of Jamaican culture but many visitors don't understand one big thing. Do they really believe that the whole country is stoned/stupid all day?
When was the last time you saw someone at your hotel stoned? Yes, up in the hills the poorer class of young men smoke all day . The females are too busy making a living to smoke herb during the day.
You're on vacation so smoking and drinking all day is cool. But never think that what goes on on the 7 mile beach and cliffs is Jamaican standard.
So to answer the OP......... you won't have any problem finding herb in Negril. Just ask your hotel staff about where to smoke.
times are a changing, even in Jamaica....in the 80's when we started going you couldnt find a place where you weren't offered....people change too,most employer's wont tolerate it, so the employees dont use it, at least at work..it is Illegal !!! so smoke if your sure of your surroundings, and sure of who or where you ask for it..its not cool to "show off" smoking it, even for a Jamaican,, it is cool to be discrete though.........have fun, if you want to or find the need to, go someplace nice with your partner, settle in, enjoy yourself...and dont pay a fine, spend that money elsewhere........the "Wild WEst Days of Jamaica and Negril are over...Jerry Garcia is dead man..deal with it....lol learn about the past, dont try and bring it back
Jerry Berry is dead man? No way man!
Exasperated!!! So many negril experts on here it's funny.
Amsterdam have changed their laws on cannabis, wonder why?
The uk declassified cannabis years ago and then reclassified it due to the rise in cases of drug induced psychosis and crime rates.
All drivers are part time or full time drug dealers FACT!!! Okay then, your obviously the expert on this.
See if Colorado keeps those new laws as is in a few years!
The point about negril being more than the AI s, I would agree and I don't know why you made that point to me.
Negril and Jamaica is also more than a Tye dye tee shirt and a spliff .
So much of the negative about Jamaicans on here again, that I think some of you on this board really do travel there just to get high. Maybe the way you are when you are there has shaped the way some Jamaicans treat you and others, respect you or disrespect you. A bit of self reflection through your smoky haze might be needed.
Your experiences of JA are yours, but not everyone's.
I think the reason why there are so many guests and lurkers on this forum is because, it is very high school clicky on here sometimes, with an inner circle of people who stand shoulder to shoulder on every issue.
You have your own community when in Jamaica, and that's good, but there are many different types of visitor to negril.
I don't need the history on negril thanks, hilarious. You know nothing about me to offer this little lecture.
I'm sure most of my comments will be shot down in flames by the negril " mean girls"!
some of my humble thoughts:
when travelling, use a little extra discretion than you would at home
re: lighting up at the Lodge - hey, someone might as well be the first, and hopefully not the last!
I wouldn't say all drivers are drug dealers, but most of them can be/are brokers.
stoned does not necessarily go hand in hand with stupid; drunk/stupid is a far more common occurence
Info on Decriminalizing Conference :)
soon come ....
http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/...maica_16693235
Westenders there might be "mean girls" on here but you seem to be an "angry girl" in your posts. Relax, I noticed you have only 31 posts by your profile, have you been a long time lurker? By the way, I feel good about myself since I'm a guy and you haven't labeled me as mean, :cool:
Lol Flip ,,, Hockey fight video would a worked as well !!
I can't stop laughing Flip.
I KNEW Flip wouldn't let me down!!!!!!
http://www.ibtimes.com/amsterdam-dro...ourists-858027Quote:
Amsterdam have changed their laws on cannabis, wonder why?
No, they have not, actually. A-dam DID NOT follow other parts of the country in banning foreign vistors from their cannabis coffee shops. The law remains unchanged, and people can freely partake of legal herb in A-dam today. I'm not mean, not a girl, and not part of any clique here, but will correct obvious misinformation any time that I see it. If you are going to comment on a nation's laws, maybe you should actually familiarize yourself WITH the law first.
How often have you been to Colorado since legalization has taken place? How much of the economic boom have you personally witnessed? There has been no increase in crime, and millions of tax dollars are being funneled to Colorado schools. As a recent attendee of the US Cannabis Cup in Denver, as well as a frequnet visitor to Colorado, I can assure you legalization is going just fine in Colorado, with massive tax revenues and and actual drop in the crime rate since cannabis was legalized. If what I've witnessed is any indication whatsoever, Co won't be turning its back on legalization anytime soon. Its got a firm hold in the state, and they won't simply turn their back on the economic impact of legalized cannabis. Its become a somewhat mainstream industry n Colorado, with even a new banking system set to go into affect to further accommodate the needs of the cannabis industry. Its settled in and put down roots. The federal government has given Co its blessing as well, so there's no fear that the federal govt will be shutting things down either. Yes, we will see if Co's laws remian in effect....my guess is that they will indeed stand the test of time, and will serve as inspiration for other states to do the same. The majority of US citizens, for the fiirst time ever, have come to a consensus that they believe marijuana should be legal. If our government works the way its supposed to and reflects the will of the people, outright legalization in inevitable, and cannabis will be NORMLized (see what I did there?)to the point that discussions like this will no longer be necessary. Those exasperated by cannabis and those who seek it out and enjoy it are in for darker days. The rest of us however, will be irie mon!Quote:
See if Colorado keeps those new laws as is in a few years
Troublemaker is right. Just heard on the news that crime is down in Colorado and Washington. Whether you like it or not, Westender, ganja is here to stay. Try to look at it as a good thing. It has certainly helped my uncle in Seattle who has Parkinson's disease.
When we got in(Tues this week) our driver broached the subject.
So going back to the OP'S question take the Zen approach let it come to you, one caveat don't on the beach - if you,re a gourmet anyway.
One anecdote: We were at Sunbeach, since I've been reading this thread I asked the bartender if she minded if I sparked up.
"No Mon."
In a bit a tourist couple (European?) Sat down near us.
I turned to them and asked if they were bothered by my smoking.
They looked at me like I had three heads, but said, "no problem."
As far as Colorado I was there the week before Cannabis cup - one of the stores I visited was right on the edge of a neighborhood of pleasant homes, I took the time to look around and there weren't any homes for sale or any sign of any kind of urban distress.
Another funny thing, while most of the workers were in their 20's most of the clientele were boomers.
I too noticed that Rum, when I visited the newly opened recreational store in Ft Collins. At 36, I was definitely one of the younger people in the crowded waiting room. As far as subs and Jamaica go.....I stayed at Couples Negril my only visit to Jamaica, ten years ago, on my honeymoon. I didn't out of my way to search for ganja, but guess what? I had a week's worth, within ten minutes of my arrival, no stress, no fuss, no problem mon. We're arriving for our ten year anniversary in Oct, on a much different kind of Jamaican vacation, (staying at Seastar this time around) and while I'll definitely partake, acquisition of said goods is of little concern to me....it'll find me, in various amounts, qualities and prices....but its a buyers market, certainly, and if you're looking for quality, don't be afraid to say no or ask for better stuff. What I experienced was that the high grade wasn't quite comparable to what I can get here in the states, it was certainly several steps above crappy Mexi schwag in every way.
I don't see what's wrong with being a lurker when weighing in may start to some online argument. Smoke or don't.
Some people like to play "arm chair moderator" around here....
i have commented on this thread about 5 times and erased it every time...one was very detailed...lol...
I will say that the term sub came from a episode of How I met your Mother....that is the way i am using it...
and it may not be a potent as in the states, but it def alot cheaper...so just eat a little more...i eat all day, every day, and I actually save money on subs while on vacation...
I live in CO and the whole legalization thing is kind of a big yawn. Most likely the reason we legalized is that it's always been here, always been easy to get and just not a big deal in many social circles. Seems to me tourists are more excited about the over-priced new stores than the locals. Might sort of parallel the situation in JA???
Talking about how many subs you consumed or beers you drank is so 7th grade. It just adds stigma and misunderstanding. Reefer Madness added many misconceptions, please be socially responsible with your consumption.
Thank you booger....
Booger check out Tiz's RedStripe post. Sorry couldn't PM you for some reason.