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Did anyone notice that the water was very discolored at Coco La Palm beach north towards the river yesterday?
I wonder what caused this? We first saw it on their webcam but here is a picture taken yesterday by someone at Coco.
http://negril.com/forum/attachment.p...&thumb=1&stc=1
It's a common occurence....the run off from the morass/river....happens every time there's been days of rain or a heavy rain...
I keep hearing that it's sewage, is this true? Even if it was sewage, the sea is so big that I sure that it doesn't stick around for long.
Yuck, who do you hear this from heater? I figured it was just tannic water from the breakdown of plants in the morass, what else is up river?Quote:
Originally Posted by heater
There was alot of grass in the water as we left yesterday, looked like the water in my garbage can when it gets full of water and grass clippings
Looks like sewage to me. There's way too much of it to be run off.
I'm not scientist or biologist, or water treatment specialist. But it looks like the water in the river next to the roundabout to me.
i notice that no jamaicans swim in the ocean when this occurs . . . bnewb, do you swim while the water is in that condition?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bnewb
in nov. of 2012, i stayed at country country . . . that "sewage" hit that far down the beach . . . it smelled pure s h i t . . . smell lingered . . .
I have friends staying at CCLP right now, they mentioned the water yesterday, but nothing about a horrendous smell. Said the water was as clear as can be today.
Thats just great!! Arriving tomorrow
http://rjrnewsonline.com/local/nepa-...iver-pollution
Sooo ummm, yeah. I stick to believing it's sewage.
Ugh...
Yikes !!! :mad:
Noticed it at Llantrissant one evening when we were there in Dec. No smell, just discoloration, but looked nasty enough to not swim in it. Anyways we were told it was run off from the river due to rains. Whatever it was, the water was clear the next morning when I woke up.
I have seen it like that in 2010....no smell, looked like the river water to me.....
When I walked down the beach to the town,,the local stopped me at the river and said do NOT walk in that water,it is dirty,go around to the bridge????????
Quote:
Originally Posted by kaycee
The article is a year old. So who knows if they fixed the cause or not.Quote:
Fri February 3, 2012
The National Environment & Planning Agency, NEPA, says it's investigations of the pollution incident in the South Negril River have identified the likely cause to be sewage effluent.
The agency conducted an investigation Thursday after it received reports that there was evidence of the river being polluted.
The investigations also followed a protest staged by fishermen in the area earlier Thursday.
NEPA says its Enforcement Officers visited the area and identified the source of the pollution at the sewage pipe from the National Water Commission's Sewage Treatment Plant in Sheffield, Westmoreland.
The Manager of the Enforcement Branch at NEPA has brought the matter to the attention of the Commission and mandated that the malfunctioning system be rectified within 24 hours.
The agency has also collected water samples along the river for laboratory analysis.
In the meantime, residents and especially fishermen are being asked to avoid using the area
JitterBug, this is what I've heard as well.... it's due to the river, especially when heavy rains are happening.Quote:
Originally Posted by JitterBug
St. Anthony's Kitchen
This is an absolutely normal and necessary occurrence after heavy rains. The South Negril River, which is dark in color because of the plant life in the morass has been credited for the naming of Negril. One of the theories of the origin of the name "Negril" is because when the Spanish in the 1500's named Negril, it was for the Spanish word for black.Quote:
Originally Posted by kylake
Of course you are entitled to believe what you want, but as Flip pointed out, this "news" is over two years old and had to do with several dozen fish that died off - it turned out to be a single accidental incident - which is why there was no further "news" because there was no "news" to this event.Quote:
Originally Posted by kaycee
Exactly....Quote:
Originally Posted by groove16
No, it is not sewage. it the river water flowing into the sea, which is why is "floats" on top of the sea water which is heavier than fresh water. That is also why you (any human body) floats in sea water, and sinks in fresh water...Quote:
Originally Posted by heater
You are correct. It is the tannic water of the river caused by the breakdown of the plant life in the Great Morass. This is the same way that tea gets it color from tea leaves....Quote:
Originally Posted by kylake
Huh? It is river water. The river runs through the Great Morass.Quote:
Originally Posted by kaycee
Jamaican have and do swim in the sea when this occurs (the Caribbean is technically a "sea", not an "ocean"). I have swam it before - the darker layer is only on top of the heavier sea water due to the sea's salt content.Quote:
Originally Posted by JitterBug
Please read my "To stop the unfounded rumors" thread I just reposted. I posted first back in November 2012 to address the exact experience you are relating again...Quote:
Originally Posted by JitterBug
http://negril.com/forum/showthread.p...863#post125863
The reason they mentioned no smell is because there wasnt any. It was river water, not sewage, or as the best rumor we heard, an "oil spill from a tanker"..... gotta love the Negril Rumor Mill!Quote:
Originally Posted by heater
Tiz,Quote:
Originally Posted by TizzyATX
You were informed correctly!
I think I need to teach Rob how to use the multi-quote feature.:cool:
As an aside. A lot of the time the River is completely cut off from the sea, and there is a sand bar there. You would think, that if the river was a loaded with human feces as some people tend to believe... Crossing the bridge on the beach road to the roundabout would be a very unpleasant experience, and being in town would also be unpleasant.
Now, usually I am on my 7th or 8th bar by the time I make it down that far, and I might not notice the difference...
Flip,
I know how to use the multi-quote feature, but felt it was more personal to address each person directly.
And the glass bottom and fisherman's boats are "docked" by the bridge everyday and they need to get into the water on a daily basis. The rumors about the river water are just that - rumors with no basis in fact....
Just saying if the rumors would true. Then it would smell ****ty. Pun intended.
Why??? Does algae grow very close to the beach at the Riu Club???????? I don't see any algae growth anywhere but there.....
My wife and I first noticed it on Saturday. For a minute I wondered as it moved toward us and then into our swimming area at Beach House Villas. I remembered earlier posts from Negril.com... saw the leaves and grass in the water and told my wife it was river water. Tea colored as also happens in Florida. Locals in Fort Meyers explained the tea water when we were there visiting.
We walked down the beach getting far enough ahead of it to swim in the clear water. Just our preference. The change in the wind is what I believe brought it to shore.
Next day (The big day everyone is talking about) we swam and could see the dark band out farther in the sea. Sure enough as soon as the wind came up it brought it in. This time (Sunday) It worked it's way all the way down to couples swept away before I quit watching. As we walked and swam ahead now and then people were saying everything from oil spill to sewage. I would laugh and explain it was river water and to look at the vegetation in the water. For everyone's information there was no smell. Not even a rotten leaf smell. Just ruined the pretty color temporarily from that pretty blue to Tea color. I would think this adds nutrient's that the sea life need to survive.
Much unlike the plastic bottles Styrofoam containers, Bottle caps and crap we leave along the beach which as visitors that we can do something about. For me I will take mother natures dirt over mans any day. After visiting for the last 10 days I wish there was something I could do to shine a light on litter and get others involved in picking up (It starts with US) and maybe even a recycling program going in Jamaica. What about that?????
Last year, rjonsun visited the Negril waste water treatment plant and wrote a trip report about it.
http://negril.com/forum/showthread.p...ment-in-Negril
So, in Negril they treat waste water much the same way we do in our first-world countries. There is no raw sewage in the Negril river.
awesome tibit there rob...Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob
Thank you Rob for clearing that up. I would hate for newcomers to "think" that was sewage.
Thank you Rob for this & your other responses. I've been telling people this for years but the sewage rumor never seems to die. Surprised it got so far down the beach. I heard it rained a lot when I left. It's common where I stay @ the north end of the beach. Most summers the river "comes in" maybe 2X while I'm there (4+ weeks). Last summer it was very rainy & the river "came in" 5-6X a week. If people could just think of it as tea, they wouldn't get so freaked out about it. It always clears up. No big deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob
Punta NegrillaQuote:
Originally Posted by Rob
I've been there when there are heavy rains and the darker water clears up the next day, I never saw it that dark though and it sure went far down the beach this time. I hope all the rains over and clear warm sunny skies from now on for everybody vacationing there now and very glad to hear its not sewage.