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We would like to extend a heartfelt thank you to all our Canadian friends who have visited this season. Your generosity and support of the Negril community cannot be overstated. For those whose upcoming plans have been changed, we look forward to seeing you after April 30th.
For those who are choosing to stay or have been stuck here due to circumstances, please feel free to contact us at anytime - we will be here to help in any way possible.
Thank you Canadians!
Soooo.....lets see, -22'C for a high in Winnipeg tomorrow.....or stay in Jamaica until April 30th :confused: What should I do. Ya we're staying put. 30th of April is still 3 months away so I hope and pray that things will improve before that.
If I could even get there I would but now there are no flights. Guess the government wants us all home for Winter break. But I am NOT happy.
This is why there are no flightsQuote:
Originally Posted by SLP
But there are still flights to the USA, where you can then book a flight to the Caribbean. If you are rich, you can still vacation in the tropics..... go figure...Quote:
Originally Posted by airswift
https://www.traveloffpath.com/canadi...-u-s-airlines/
After seeing these numbers in another post:
“A more reliable stat is the mortality rate. Based on per million, the USA is at 1344 per million. Canada is at 521 per million. Jamaica is at 116 per million. Jamaica is over ten times safer than the USA and almost exactly 5 times safer than Canada.
I don’t understand why Canadians would expose themselves to the higher number of cases and mortality rates by flying through the US and having layovers in several crowded airports. I’d love to be in Jamaica now but I wouldn’t want to pick up the virus on the way down and pass it on to the locals. Just my thoughts.
The article I posted pretty much explains the thought process. But a couple things you need to keep in mind. First, the mortality rate stats are rarely if ever quoted in the mainstream media. So people are being kept in the dark about the facts. And now everyone is being tested for Covid on international flights, so Canadians are essentially travelling with other pre-tested negative travelers.Quote:
Originally Posted by JahLove
And no airport is crowded at this time...
Or you could look at it by death rate.
20k deaths in Canada/783k cases = 2.5%
441k deaths in USA/26M cases = 1.7%
352 deaths in JA/15.8k cases = 2.2%
Lots of numbers being thrown around. Here in Illinois, our top doc said from the beginning that if you died with COVID (eg, motorcycle accident) you would be counted as a COVID death even if you did not die from COVID. Not sure how other States, Canada or Jamaica is counting.
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Originally Posted by JahLove
This is exactly why I stated the number of cases means virtually nothing. The more any country tests, the more positive and negative cases will be generated. The mortality rate FROM COVID, not with Covid per million is a pure number, not dependent upon any procedures a country may or may not be doing. It is truly the only number that can be used for comparison between countries.Quote:
Originally Posted by Odinson
If you die in a car accident and you happened to have Covid, to count that as a Covid death is stupid, misleading and skews anything and everything that scientists are trying to do to stop this pandemic.
That makes sense Rob. I can see that the mortality rate isn’t indicative of the number of active cases. I thought the airports might be busy for interstate travel.
Illinois has a lot of stupid going on. We just logged our 7th straight year of overall population decline. Only New York had a larger net loss last year.
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Originally Posted by Rob
Regardless of whether someone said that, it's really not true. Just another of those zombie memes that keep coming back to life no matter how many times it is discredited.Quote:
Originally Posted by Odinson
I guess someone could make a meme out of this. I thought memes were usually funny though.
"If you were in hospice and had already been given a few weeks to live, and then you also were found to have COVID, that would be counted as a COVID death. It means technically even if you died of a clear alternate cause, but you had COVID at the same time, it's still listed as a COVID death. So, everyone who's listed as a COVID death doesn't mean that that was the cause of the death, but they had COVID at the time of the death." Dr. Ezike outlined.
https://week.com/2020/04/20/idph-dir...re-classified/
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Originally Posted by wrtiii
How depressing, but this excess mortality is really a good way to look at this whole COVID situation and usually puts the 'this is a plandemic' disbelievers down. Counting excess deaths takes into account deaths directly attributed to the virus and those indirectly attributed - eg, increase in suicides because of extended unemployment and financial ruin, increase in heart attack deaths because people are afraid to go to hospital.
All this makes me want to get back to Negril more than ever - a bit of a medical hurdle and then we're there!
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Originally Posted by dash