Thank you to our Canadian friends!

[JahLove]

After seeing these numbers in another post:

“A more reliable stat is the mortality rate. Based on per million, the USA is at 1344 per million. Canada is at 521 per million. Jamaica is at 116 per million. Jamaica is over ten times safer than the USA and almost exactly 5 times safer than Canada.

I don’t understand why Canadians would expose themselves to the higher number of cases and mortality rates by flying through the US and having layovers in several crowded airports. I’d love to be in Jamaica now but I wouldn’t want to pick up the virus on the way down and pass it on to the locals. Just my thoughts.

[Rob]

After seeing these numbers in another post:

“A more reliable stat is the mortality rate. Based on per million, the USA is at 1344 per million. Canada is at 521 per million. Jamaica is at 116 per million. Jamaica is over ten times safer than the USA and almost exactly 5 times safer than Canada.

I don’t understand why Canadians would expose themselves to the higher number of cases and mortality rates by flying through the US and having layovers in several crowded airports. I’d love to be in Jamaica now but I wouldn’t want to pick up the virus on the way down and pass it on to the locals. Just my thoughts.

The article I posted pretty much explains the thought process. But a couple things you need to keep in mind. First, the mortality rate stats are rarely if ever quoted in the mainstream media. So people are being kept in the dark about the facts. And now everyone is being tested for Covid on international flights, so Canadians are essentially travelling with other pre-tested negative travelers.

And no airport is crowded at this time...

[JahLove]

That makes sense Rob. I can see that the mortality rate isn’t indicative of the number of active cases. I thought the airports might be busy for interstate travel.

[Odinson]

Or you could look at it by death rate.
20k deaths in Canada/783k cases = 2.5%
441k deaths in USA/26M cases = 1.7%
352 deaths in JA/15.8k cases = 2.2%

Lots of numbers being thrown around. Here in Illinois, our top doc said from the beginning that if you died with COVID (eg, motorcycle accident) you would be counted as a COVID death even if you did not die from COVID. Not sure how other States, Canada or Jamaica is counting.

After seeing these numbers in another post:

“A more reliable stat is the mortality rate. Based on per million, the USA is at 1344 per million. Canada is at 521 per million. Jamaica is at 116 per million. Jamaica is over ten times safer than the USA and almost exactly 5 times safer than Canada.

I don’t understand why Canadians would expose themselves to the higher number of cases and mortality rates by flying through the US and having layovers in several crowded airports. I’d love to be in Jamaica now but I wouldn’t want to pick up the virus on the way down and pass it on to the locals. Just my thoughts.

[Rob]

Or you could look at it by death rate.
20k deaths in Canada/783k cases = 2.5%
441k deaths in USA/26M cases = 1.7%
352 deaths in JA/15.8k cases = 2.2%

Lots of numbers being thrown around. Here in Illinois, our top doc said from the beginning that if you died with COVID (eg, motorcycle accident) you would be counted as a COVID death even if you did not die from COVID. Not sure how other States, Canada or Jamaica is counting.

This is exactly why I stated the number of cases means virtually nothing. The more any country tests, the more positive and negative cases will be generated. The mortality rate FROM COVID, not with Covid per million is a pure number, not dependent upon any procedures a country may or may not be doing. It is truly the only number that can be used for comparison between countries.

If you die in a car accident and you happened to have Covid, to count that as a Covid death is stupid, misleading and skews anything and everything that scientists are trying to do to stop this pandemic.

[Odinson]

Illinois has a lot of stupid going on. We just logged our 7th straight year of overall population decline. Only New York had a larger net loss last year.

This is exactly why I stated the number of cases means virtually nothing. The more any country tests, the more positive and negative cases will be generated. The mortality rate FROM COVID, not with Covid per million is a pure number, not dependent upon any procedures a country may or may not be doing. It is truly the only number that can be used for comparison between countries.

If you die in a car accident and you happened to have Covid, to count that as a Covid death is stupid, misleading and skews anything and everything that scientists are trying to do to stop this pandemic.

[wrtiii]

Here in Illinois, our top doc said from the beginning that if you died with COVID (eg, motorcycle accident) you would be counted as a COVID death even if you did not die from COVID. Not sure how other States, Canada or Jamaica is counting.

Regardless of whether someone said that, it's really not true. Just another of those zombie memes that keep coming back to life no matter how many times it is discredited.

[Odinson]

I guess someone could make a meme out of this. I thought memes were usually funny though.

"If you were in hospice and had already been given a few weeks to live, and then you also were found to have COVID, that would be counted as a COVID death. It means technically even if you died of a clear alternate cause, but you had COVID at the same time, it's still listed as a COVID death. So, everyone who's listed as a COVID death doesn't mean that that was the cause of the death, but they had COVID at the time of the death." Dr. Ezike outlined.

https://week.com/2020/04/20/idph-dir...re-classified/

Regardless of whether someone said that, it's really not true. Just another of those zombie memes that keep coming back to life no matter how many times it is discredited.