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Thread: Crime threads...advice for a sort of newbie?

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    Quote Originally Posted by captaind View Post
    Cars with red license plates are properly insured and licensed to carry passengers.

    A "Route" cab takes as many passengers as they can fit in the car. Rate is 1.25 US per leg. In Negril one leg is the beach and the other is the cliffs (West End)

    A private cab costs more (about 1.5 times) but it's a lot more comfortable and once you find a driver you can call him pretty much any time

    I recommend Linston @ www.redplate-negril.com and a transportation sponsor here at negril.com

    To be fair I should mention he's my son so I may be a bit slanted (lol) Fell free to contact hm or me for any information that will make your visit easier.

    Cap
    Thanks! I may PM about an airport ride. I'm arriving alone...thought about Juta, but maybe will go the private taxi route!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob View Post
    Kikn,

    Since you know about the 4 robberies that happened the previous week last February and you see no help in sugar coating things, why are you not mentioning the name of the property in question and offering details of the robberies so that others may benefit from this information?

    And if you notice, this is being reported here right now, so to say it is not reported only comes down to the fact that you didnt report it in the first place.

    Please present the details about the robberies so others may benefit in the future. If you are certain it happened just as you heard it did, then others can be helped.

    But please do not blame us for you not reporting something that you know, that cannot be our fault.
    Well, quite frankly, I did not feel the need. We showed up with no reservations in the middle of high season. All of our regular places were booked up. The place we ended up staying at was a small hotel run by a lovely woman. A small place, I have never once heard the hotel name mentioned here or anywhere else online. The owner informed us of the recent robberies, we still booked, and our stay was fine and uneventful. The report of the robbery was secondhand, from the hotel owner and a neighbor, so I felt no need to say anything negative about the place.

    But yeah, I probably could have said something so that others could be warned. Like Kahuna, these robberies were simple and preventable. Lock your windows. Problem would have been solved. Thief entered from an unlocked window every time. And, again rumor and heresay, but was told that in at least two of the robberies the window had been unlocked earlier in the evening by a hooker invited in the room earlier.

    But, rather than reporting it, when I hear about this and other easily preventable incidents, I will simply give advice for people to avoid the issue. Don't walk the beach at night. Lock your doors and windows at night. And if you bring a hooker home you are only asking for problems. I have heard of several incidents, but pretty much all of them have been easily preventable.

    But, sorry Rob, I don't think I hear about a fraction of the incidents involving tourists here or anywhere else. I believe Suzan is absolutely correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiknback View Post
    Well, quite frankly, I did not feel the need. We showed up with no reservations in the middle of high season. All of our regular places were booked up. The place we ended up staying at was a small hotel run by a lovely woman. A small place, I have never once heard the hotel name mentioned here or anywhere else online. The owner informed us of the recent robberies, we still booked, and our stay was fine and uneventful. The report of the robbery was secondhand, from the hotel owner and a neighbor, so I felt no need to say anything negative about the place.

    But yeah, I probably could have said something so that others could be warned. Like Kahuna, these robberies were simple and preventable. Lock your windows. Problem would have been solved. Thief entered from an unlocked window every time. And, again rumor and heresay, but was told that in at least two of the robberies the window had been unlocked earlier in the evening by a hooker invited in the room earlier.

    But, rather than reporting it, when I hear about this and other easily preventable incidents, I will simply give advice for people to avoid the issue. Don't walk the beach at night. Lock your doors and windows at night. And if you bring a hooker home you are only asking for problems. I have heard of several incidents, but pretty much all of them have been easily preventable.

    But, sorry Rob, I don't think I hear about a fraction of the incidents involving tourists here or anywhere else. I believe Suzan is absolutely correct.
    So Gee,now fo the Second time you refuse to name the hotel but you also say you want to stay at a safe place? So,why don't you say the name of the hotel to "warn" others????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiknback View Post
    Well, quite frankly, I did not feel the need.... The report of the robbery was secondhand, from the hotel owner and a neighbor, so I felt no need to say anything negative about the place.... But, rather than reporting it, when I hear about this and other easily preventable incidents, I will simply give advice for people to avoid the issue.
    Sounds like a nice coat of sugar to me.... with a touch of hypocrisy thrown in for good measure. You speculate that only a fraction of incidents are reported here, and complain about that on Negril.com. Yet you feel perfectly within your rights to decide what should be reported or not.

    None of us at the staff of Negril.com would ever make a decision like that. If it happened, it happened, it is not up to us to choose what gets reported or not. Other than when the privacy issues of the victim become involved, actual incidents should, can and are being reported here.

    Four robberies happen at a single property in a single week and and no one reports even one of them anywhere? And the owner "warns" you of this before you check in? This makes me think, or raises my "spidey sense" as some have called it. Something just doesnt sound right about this, there may be more to this story than any of us know...

    So now these 4 completely vague, second hand, speculative, non-informational or beneficial alleged robberies have been reported here. The information can offer no benefit or help to any of the readers of this board other than they may or may not have occurred.

    I stand by what I wrote:

    "Because of cellphones, smartphones, Negril.com, Twitter, Facebook, OGNR, the Gleaner, the Observer, the Star, Youtube, personal blogs, Tripadvisor, visitors own local newspapers and countless other resources available to everyone on the internet at a moment's notice, there are very few real incidents (along with a few fake ones) that do not make it to the internet nowadays. And with Negril.com being the largest Negril information source available, the true incidents do tend to make it here. To think otherwise is not understanding the reality of how invasive and fast information travels in the world today."

    You and Suzen can disagree, but you are the one making decisions about what gets reported or doesnt get reported, not Negril.com...
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    These incident's happened. I choose not to report the name because I feel no need to punish the poor hotel owner because a guest brought a hooker home. Particularly because the place is small, has no internet presence, and is amost certainly not booked for any Negril.com visitor's vacation.

    It might be more helpful to publish the name of the larger, more frequently booked hotel that the thief reportedly also hit. But that would be rumor, and, of course, unallowed. I've probably already said too much.

    But yes, it did happen. And many, many more unreported. I am sure every repeat visitor can name dozens examples of "incidents" happening. Almost all of these involve some sort of rumor, so they cannot be reported on here. But, almost all cases, something happened.

    I never said that all incidents should be reported on here. Quite the opposite. I siad that is impossible.

    And to suggest that you do, is simply wrong. Crime happens every single day. Only a small percentage is reported here or anywhere else.

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    Kikn,

    Anyone can say anything, but facts are facts. If you hear a rumor, that does not automatically mean it is true. In fact, it means the exact opposite, that it may not be true.

    That is why rumor and speculation serve no useful purpose. You have no facts to back up your claim that a larger, more frequently booked hotel was "also hit" other than the rumors you heard. To claim something happened with no facts to back it up is irresponsible at best. And it would be irresponsible to allow it to be posted here.

    I know more than a dozen repeat visitors that can name all kinds of wild stories that they have heard and they know for a fact that the rumors are not true because they were there when and where the rumored event supposedly happened. In fact, this exact thing happened to us just yesterday!

    For you to say that in almost all cases, something happened is nothing but pure speculation on your part. You are making a guess.

    If you have facts, please state them.

    But the fact remains that there are no travel warnings from any country about Negril, unlike the US Travel Warning about the Bahamas released yesterday. State Departments from countries around the world consider Negril to be a safe place to visit.

    There is very little tourist crime in Negril. Is there none? Of course not, there are first hand incidents reported right here that go back 30+ years. But most of the rumors and speculation that you hear about is simply that - rumor and speculation with no basis in fact.

    Anyone can say anything... but facts speak for themselves.
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    Gee,if the robberies were not reported? How did You find out?

    Yeah that's right,dont punish the poor hotel but let folks continue to go there and get robbed???

    If I go to a restaurant and got sick,,I would use this board to warn others.....

    You sound like,,I got robbed but dont want report the guy because he may get in trouble???? Do you work for Trip Advisor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fred Stripe View Post
    Gee,if the robberies were not reported? How did You find out?

    Yeah that's right,dont punish the poor hotel but let folks continue to go there and get robbed???

    If I go to a restaurant and got sick,,I would use this board to warn others.....

    You sound like,,I got robbed but dont want report the guy because he may get in trouble???? Do you work for Trip Advisor?

    LOL! Not to downplay Kikn's points, that just made me laugh....


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