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    Quote Originally Posted by suzengrace View Post
    Mr Stripes does make a good point re" the persecuting of criminals....That is one area wher Jam. is severly lacking ,that and cases being held up in court for years ,and years... I'm known of many criminal acts that were commited against locals (no this isnt about tourists and negril) many of these involve, murder, rape,missing persons etc etc..in majority of the cases justice was never done.....I know police will give more attention to tourists and their crimes (its the bread and butter of the country).... but still, when do you ever hear of a criminal that committed a crime against a tourits be held accountable...( except for the above Sav story...) I cant think of any..

    I dont know what the answer is to dealing with the increase of crime ....Most likely, one would be spmething many dont want to imagine (esp this board) and that would be to take you dollars elsewhere ....until Jam decide to get a little more serious about dealing with crime..

    When i come to a tropical paraside the last thing i want is to be on lock-down mode..cant even have a window open to feel the night breeeze and hear the ocean..have to set up a fort know security system in my room ...unfortunalety, theres not alot of places in Jam you can do that without having excellent security... and yes, i feel people have the right to know what places do have excellent security vs those that dont...

    I just hope the tide turns before someone really does get hurt...

    ps. in the city in s cali here -we have over 100,000 citizens here-and out local paper everyweek has a police sheet with all the robberies, attemped, asssaults ect listed ...people in our community like to know where this stuff is going on and they feel they have the right to know...
    With tourism around 5-6% of GDP I do not think we can say tourism is the bread and butter, more like the roll of paper towels.

    Also, I have seen several comments about what happens in the States, hence many folks thought processes. However, you cannot compare Third World to the States, both of which have their pluses and minuses in compare.

    What I find interesting is several folks who do not see the thieves as 100% of the problem. Leave your valuables at home, blah blah blah blah blah blah.

    And who elected Ping Pong as the almighty one Fred?


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    Quote Originally Posted by booger View Post
    With tourism around 5-6% of GDP I do not think we can say tourism is the bread and butter, more like the roll of paper towels.

    Also, I have seen several comments about what happens in the States, hence many folks thought processes. However, you cannot compare Third World to the States, both of which have their pluses and minuses in compare.

    What I find interesting is several folks who do not see the thieves as 100% of the problem. Leave your valuables at home, blah blah blah blah blah blah.

    And who elected Ping Pong as the almighty one Fred?

    damn auto correct. I meant Accompong........


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    Actually the Jam economy is heavily dependent on services, which account for 65% of GDP..it dervies most of its foreign exchange from tourism, remittances (hello western union) and bauxite/alumina.Tourisim industry provides about one-forth of all jobs..

    this comes from the 2013 cia worldbook facts ...

    Tourisim may not be bread and butter but its worth more than a roll of paper towels....
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    Quote Originally Posted by suzengrace View Post
    Actually the Jam economy is heavily dependent on services, which account for 65% of GDP..it dervies most of its foreign exchange from tourism, remittances (hello western union) and bauxite/alumina.Tourisim industry provides about one-forth of all jobs..

    this comes from the 2013 cia worldbook facts ...

    Tourisim may not be bread and butter but its worth more than a roll of paper towels....
    you're right, throw in a roll of toilet paper too


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    Quote Originally Posted by booger View Post
    With tourism around 5-6% of GDP I do not think we can say tourism is the bread and butter, more like the roll of paper towels.

    Also, I have seen several comments about what happens in the States, hence many folks thought processes. However, you cannot compare Third World to the States, both of which have their pluses and minuses in compare.

    What I find interesting is several folks who do not see the thieves as 100% of the problem. Leave your valuables at home, blah blah blah blah blah blah.

    And who elected Ping Pong as the almighty one Fred?
    5 to 6 percent haaaaaaaaaaa..so wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by jar77 View Post
    5 to 6 percent haaaaaaaaaaa..so wrong
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    The Jamaican economy is heavily dependent on services, which now account for nearly 65% of GDP. The country continues to derive most of its foreign exchange from tourism, remittances, and bauxite/alumina. Remittances account for nearly 15% of GDP and exports of bauxite and alumina make up about 10%. The bauxite/alumina sector was most affected by the global downturn while the tourism industry was resilient, experiencing an increase of 4% in tourist arrivals. Tourism revenues account for roughly 10% of GDP, and both arrivals and revenues grew in 2010, up 4% and 6% respectively. Jamaica's economy faces many challenges to growth: high crime and corruption, large-scale unemployment and underemployment, and a debt-to-GDP ratio of more than 120%. Jamaica's onerous public debt burden is the result of government bailouts to ailing sectors of the economy, most notably to the financial sector. In early 2010, the Jamaican government created the Jamaica Debt Exchange in order to retire high-priced domestic bonds and significantly reduce annual debt servicing. Despite the improvement, debt servicing costs still hinder the government's ability to spend on infrastructure and social programs, particularly as job losses rise in a shrinking economy. Jamaica was hard hit by the effects of the global economic crisis, experiencing economic contractions from 2008-10 and growth remains low. The SIMPSON-MILLER administration faces the difficult prospect of having to achieve fiscal discipline in order to maintain debt payments, while simultaneously attacking a serious crime problem that is hampering economic growth. High unemployment exacerbates the crime problem, including gang violence that is fueled by the drug trade. As of late 2012, the SIMPSON-MILLER government was working to negotiate a new IMF Stand-by agreement to gain access to additional funds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jar77 View Post
    5 to 6 percent haaaaaaaaaaa..so wrong
    Than what is it? I Googled it before I posted it and that is what returned. According to the CIA World Factbook it is 10%. http://www.theodora.com/wfbcurrent/j...a_economy.html. That is if you believe what the CIA has to say. So several searches returned results from 4-10%.

    So I stand corrected. It is a roll of paper towels, roll of toilet paper, and throw in tube of toothpaste for all those wonderful Jamaican smiles. Remittances account for more than tourism at 15%, so the folks who left add 50% more to GDP than the folks who are visiting. Facts are facts and tourism will not grow until crime and corruption are dealt with.


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    Quote Originally Posted by booger View Post
    Than what is it? I Googled it before I posted it and that is what returned. According to the CIA World Factbook it is 10%. http://www.theodora.com/wfbcurrent/j...a_economy.html. That is if you believe what the CIA has to say. So several searches returned results from 4-10%.

    So I stand corrected. It is a roll of paper towels, roll of toilet paper, and throw in tube of toothpaste for all those wonderful Jamaican smiles. Remittances account for more than tourism at 15%, so the folks who left add 50% more to GDP than the folks who are visiting. Facts are facts and tourism will not grow until crime and corruption are dealt with.
    Let's say 5% is right for giggles....5% percent of 15 billion dollars are some expensive paper towels even if you throw in a few million tubes of toothpaste...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jar77 View Post
    Let's say 5% is right for giggles....5% percent of 15 billion dollars are some expensive paper towels even if you throw in a few million tubes of toothpaste...
    Lol. My analogy is in reference to a poster mentioning tourism is the bread and butter of the Jamaican economy.

    So who is going to post a ripoff story today? I have yet to be hit in all of my trips, knock on wood. Then again I stay at places that take security serious.


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