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    Given Rondel's reputation and professionalism, Rondel is now probably the safest place to stay, given this event....

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    At home, robberies rarely happen inside hotel rooms, while the occupants are present, even if door is left ajar.... Home invasions, robberies, when the people are home are rare and dangerous..... Thiefs look for no one home.... Armed robbers entering rooms while occupants are inside is an explosive, dangerous situation... Its a crime on a whole different level.....

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    BNewb I wanted to address your comments, the last three towns/cities I have lived in publish a police blotter once a week with all the crimes committed along with the names of the accused. This is a routine in many parts of the US that I have seen over the last 25 years. High profile cases do make the front page but it's my experience if you look you will see all the crimes someplace in the newspaper.

    As far as the fact that by law they are required to hired a licensed and bonded security company shouldn't matter, we have heard of a number of instances of guards sleeping or "lost" during these crimes. I'm not a routine visitor to Jamaica like many but the times I have been there the guards at the places I have stayed are armed with nothing but a 2-way radio and tend to be quite old. Not much help if the criminal has a weapon. To get licensed and bonded means nothing more than having a clean record and paying a fee.

    Obviously these crimes are newsworthy, we have had almost 100 posts to this thread in a little over 24 hours, some heated and others providing empathy. You and Rob being on the island with the power of this forum can make a difference. Maybe it's time to get the hotel sponsors from the Forum together to discuss a solution to this rising crime problem. There are many smart people in this world, in my experience many want to hide, many want to offer an idea while others "know all the answers" and shut down those that want to get involved. It's my opinion that if we want to keep Negril as a favorite vacation spot we better figure this out quick otherwise we will spend our hard earned $ elsewhere.
    Last edited by Tanfastic; 03-07-2014 at 01:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanfastic View Post
    BNewb I wanted to address your comments, the last three towns/cities I have lived in publish a police blotter once a week with all the crimes committed along with the names of the accused. This is a routine in many parts of the US that I have seen over the last 25 years. High profile cases do make the front page but it's my experience if you look you will see all the crimes someplace in the newspaper.

    As far as the fact that by law they are required to hired a licensed and bonded security company shouldn't matter, we have heard of a number of instances of guards sleeping or "lost" during these crimes. I'm not a routine visitor to Jamaica like many but the times I have been there the guards at the places I have stayed are armed with nothing but a 2-way radio and tend to be quite old. Not much help if the criminal has a weapon. To get licensed and bonded means nothing more than having a clean record and paying a fee.

    Obviously these crimes are newsworthy, we have had almost 100 posts to this thread in a little over 24 hours, some heated and others providing empathy. You and Rob being on the island with the power of this forum can make a difference. Maybe it's time to get the hotel sponsors from the Forum together to discuss a solution to this rising crime problem. There are many smart people in this world, in my experience many want to hide, many want to offer an idea while others "know all the answers" and shut down those that want to get involved. It's my opinion that if we want to keep Negril as a favorite vacation spot we better figure this out quick otherwise we will spend our hard earned $ elsewhere.
    Tanfastic...again...I stated only the facts...not an opinion about them but since you've asked...

    While that's great that the US towns & cities you have lived "publish a police blotter once a week"...we don't have a Negril newspaper. Where would this town publish a police blotter? The Gleaner & Observer do publish stories about high profile criminals (newsworthy) who are caught in the area but they make reference to the fact they've committed many crimes...they don't individually list them.
    Some of these criminals have been responsible for incidents that have happened to some of the people here...they've actually been caught.

    Again as far as my information about the security being required by law...I simply stated a fact...I never stated anything about the quality of the hiring practises. But, there are multiple security companies & the properties can hire whom they may choose & as with any business some are better than others.

    Negril.com & Rob personally are very involved in discussions about all aspects in making Negril the best vacation destination possible. Regularly speaking with business owners, authorities, government etc. Discussions on Negril.com are used very frequently in dealing with serious matters down here.
    Thus one of the reasons the staff of Negril.com try to keep everything to fact & first hand information...rumour & speculation can take what is an important topic to something of a joke forcing the authorities to not want to "get involved" when it goes to nonsense.
    The authorities have enough trouble trying to decipher through real incidences vs. fake incidences...ie. people trying to get out of paying their hotel bill, the "friend" down here taking off with their electronics/money or someone simply losing an item....you wouldn't believe how often these scenarios happen.

    It really does seem to me that Sadiekat's simple advice of keeping your doors & windows locked at night has gone by the way side....though you're on a vacation you should always be just as proactive in security as you hopefully are back home...not bashing anyone but most people don't leave their keys in an unlocked car.

    As you all know hotels do read and post on this message board and I'm sure they are not taking this situation lightly. This topic will be brought up at the next Negril Resort Board meeting.

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    Something I take every time I go on vacation. Or one like it.

    http://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-RSHS-...vel+door+alarm
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    Sadiekat I'm glad you were not harmed!Went thru a similar thing years back and we weren't harmed either. Sure taught us to recheck the locks and put things away when not in use during the day.
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    Well, a gal goes to work and see what happens! I'm glad you're all paying attention and discussing reasonable (and often funny steps) you can take to assure your safety. Thanks for taking the time to read this, and enjoy your travels- JA is still a lovely country.

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    Not another disturbing post about someone being robbed in Negril?
    Its never good when a thread starts out with "I wasnt sure if I should post this or not".

    So very sorry to hear about your unfortunate incident and I am glad you were not hurt.....or worse.
    It sure seems like this problem with thievery in Negril is not going away any time soon.
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    It helps no one to hide the name of this hotel. In fact, it sets the rest of us up for the same problem, and the ONLY way these problems get fixed is when concerned groups - like on this site - demand better. That happens with either a change of policy by management driven by customer concern, or by groups such as this preparing, looking out for, and protecting each other. I understand you do not want to harm the hotel, but the greater responsibility is to fellow people who you may be able to spare the same material loss, or worse, the bodily harm so many here have been thankful you were not inflicted, simply by letting other guests know where you were staying and what to watch out for. What about the next couple who are gravely harmed because nobody said anything? If the same thing happened in your home, the city where you live, with any significant purchase you made such as car, appliance, etc. you would demand better and likely be vocal about telling others, which in fact better informs and protects them from similar problems. To hide the name of the hotel is a little like sitting in the dark hoping the problem goes away on it's own, and how many times does that happen?. At worse it's setting fellow travelers up for the same unfortunate experience, or far, far worse. As one post already stated, unfortunately you can expect no help from local law enforcement, and all we've got as tourists are each other. I will look out for you, but will you do the same for me?

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    Some people just thrive on other people's misfortune and want more "dirty laundry" to be aired. The same people who look for blood at an accident scene. They smell blood in the water.

    Again, just my opinion.

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