Originally Posted by booger
damn auto correct. I meant Accompong........
damn auto correct. I meant Accompong........
Actually the Jam economy is heavily dependent on services, which account for 65% of GDP..it dervies most of its foreign exchange from tourism, remittances (hello western union) and bauxite/alumina.Tourisim industry provides about one-forth of all jobs..
this comes from the 2013 cia worldbook facts ...
Tourisim may not be bread and butter but its worth more than a roll of paper towels....
" Ones destination is never a place, but rather a new way of looking at things." (Henry Miller)
you're right, throw in a roll of toilet paper too
I have got to pipe up here because my head is about to burst steam. These same people offering up how they would physically take on the thieves are you 8 foot with a machine gun in your pocket and the mind of NASA?
For freeking real. If your mind is in sleep cycle and you awake from your cycle in mid cycle, NO WAY IN HELL your body ready to properly respond. Fight or flight neutron response will occur, however: your balance is impaired , your vision and many other factors impaired. How do I know this? My Doctorate says so.
Does it suck your stuff is missing yes. BUT use your darn adult minds here: they have entered a property illegally in middle of the night when they know most all residents are onsite and the chance of one on one encounter is very real. They have not been sleeping, their minds, their balance their vision is all centered on one thing: Leaving with your items. Do you think they are scared of your half asleep ars that they just watched snoring for the 5 minutes they were searching your room before you peeked up.Safest and best thing is pretend you are sleeping or lightly start to muffle or shuffle not making any indication you are fully awake. Then again if you have the Incredible Hulk in bed next to you like some of these guys posting think they are no worries right boys? KMT
Straight up fact of the matter, these people doing the room invasions go in knowing there is a very real chance they will have to use physical violence. You will not come out ahead here no matter how much alcohol or sub induced ego have you going on.
Also I don't generally make it practice to agree with Gerry on anything although he does have more experience than I in this whole being robbed in Negril scenario but the room invasion thefts are definitely on the rise hugely in the last couple years. Regular room thefts items left in open those are all common for decades but this breaking into rooms while occupied is getting very unsafe and frankly many many woman travelers are stopping visiting because of it. When I looked and asked advice about this upcoming trip one of my requirements for a new place was that they not have had any room invasion burglaries in the last twelve months. Most all of the recommendations I got I knew of these events occurring and didn't understand how others didn't it had been all over webs, Rondel was one mentioned and I asked that 5 months ago.
The advice to not bring your communication devices I have to roll my eyes. If it is my vacation, my relaxation that i spent my money on to relax and part of my relaxing is reading on my kindle, checking in on facebook. Those are parts of my vacation why would I leave the things I like or want or need to do at home. I have been to 15 other vacation destination countries in the time I have been going to Jamaica, never have I nor would I leave behind the things that are part of my relaxing or that I want to have along. That is a dumb suggestion. Do I need diamonds and Gold to relax not at all , i didn't take those to haiti during the Hurricane relief but i did take my laptop,and cellphone and miraculously during the lowest time of peoples lives where piles of people were being burned in the streets, my stuff came home with me unharmed. If people have to hinder their vacation because common communication devices make them stick out as a potential victim I say it is time to find a new country.
This subbed out night security is what happened at NBCC when the night stuff started happening also. The change was astounding from one visit to the next 3 years ago in a matter of 3 months. One visit I was wasted drunk went down to use lobby wifi at about 3:30 am Charlie was chatting with taxi drivers, I went back up to my room and next thing I was being awoken by Charlie rapping on my door way and yelling at about 5:30 when he brought up my key I had left in lobby and pointed out I had went to sleep with door wide open on my condo. Next trip as I came and went all evening had to ask locals to get out of my doorway so I could go in, watched them reaching in the 2nd floor bathroom windows taking shower items, having sex in whirlpool around 3 am and thankfully for me got the view from my room of night beach guard being serviced by multiple woman throughout the night while remaining in his beach chair, this was when he wasn't sleeping. Something has to be done to make sure these sub out companies are solid and tourists demanding it is the only thing that will change this. charlie was old and thin and frail but nobody got on that property without himself coming to my door to know if I wanted to meet that guest at the front desk.
Stepping down from my soapbox and head feels much better.
Children Are Our Tomorrow !
"My Doctorate says so" What an arrogant comment. That's like saying I have read all the books on karate so I know I can kick your ass.
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^^^^^^ LoL^^^^^^
before I read Shelly's novel I thought to myself "I bet she doesn't make it thru this without a Gerry mention."
Midway thru I read this: "Also I don't generally make it practice to agree with Gerry on anything although he does have more experience than I in this whole being robbed in Negril scenario but the room invasion thefts are definitely on the rise hugely in the last couple years."
Gerry, What did you do to Shelly?
Oh Booger........ you beat me to it, not much gets by you.
Goes way back as in years, probably best for a pm, aw boy still chuckling over your post. Kind of reminds you of that Glen Close / Michael Douglas movie where the psychotic woman was sitting in her bedroom by her lamp and just repeatedly turning it on and off plotting against Michael Douglas. I think it was called Fatal Attraction or something like that. I wonder if her character had a Doctorant ? This might be aging myself, darn't.
But I have to admit that I also get some pretty good chuckles over the "I'd do this or I'd do that posts" also. Trust me unless you've actually been in it or it's happened to you sorry but no you don't know how you'd handle it, you might think you do but again please believe me you don't. Having said that tho I'm not quite sure exactly how a doctorant can explain too much at all about me sorting somebody out that's in my house when I wake up. But I promise to reach out to the professor types the next time I go to the library.
I think I read a statement by this Fred Stripe character saying something like by not naming the property in a small way the person deserves it? Was that right? Come on man you can't be serious on that one, that's uncalled for. Also I've talked to a lot of police in my time, especially (unfortunately) when I was younger and some had uniforms, some had suits but I never had one call himself a "ghetto cop" or talk the way you do for that matter. Just an observation.
I'm still sorry for the original poster, but this one is kind of getting wild.
Jamb
p.s. Cap't D thank you for keeping your comment to yourself , best post I've ever read from you
I talked about the sleep cycles and neuron reactions boys that is why I mentioned my schooling in it. You all know someone will soon respond with " If someone is breaking in my room i will wake fully up immediately to be able to kick their ars..) Scientifically impossible to have all your marbles when awoken in middle of sleep also while dealing with fight or flight response was my point. Nothing about a who better than who. It was an I know this information for positive sure. Jambarney Pm me also because I am very curious to hear the version you were told as I am sure with each new tell it gained some strength. Never really was a big deal Gerry and I just two VERY different type of travelers. As stated I agreed with him on something. You boys really have me curious with the fatal attraction noting. Psycho Woman, Oh Yes at times for sure no doubt.
Children Are Our Tomorrow !
Didn't mean to have harm come upon anyone but my point was....I driving one way down the road,,,you are driving the other way,,,I just passed the bridge that was closed and I don't bother to tell you the bridge is closed? Get it? I never Warned you.
Also my friend,,,UMMM a Ghetto Cop term is used to separate me from the cops who just bust folks for spitting on the pavement, I dealt with Real criminals ? But UMM ,,never mind. I get it,you were Dumb enuf to get Got and so you hate cops.Yawn.
Last edited by Fred Stripe; 03-08-2014 at 07:28 AM.
Take your electronic devices and fancy phones with you and the odds are that you may not leave with them; not every reach but going often you are bound to leave empty one time. Or, stay in the fort knox compounds where mostly everyone has these devices and the odds are less that it will be you losing your devices lol. If you want to read your whole trip, JA may not be the place for you, at least on the busy beach. Heck I just borrow one of the locals' I-pad to check in at home .. stolen .. dunno but dare I ask "how did you get that lol." It's like them asking us, when did you arrive, where are you staying, how long are you staying tee hee. I have a cheap phone and really want no connection to the electronic world while I am away except for checking in at home once per day. I take great dvds for the locals to watch on the tv at one bar we patronize and that keeps their attention directed at the movie and not what's going on around them for a change, although I think they can do that at the same time too lol.
Another option, keep your devices in your room .. never show them around the complex ... take it to one of the fancier places and do your thing .. pack it up, take it back to your room and hide it. I do not think a lot of these burglaries are random .. they have been watching and calculating .. if you don't give them anything to see, then why would they take the risk? Otherwise, it's just plain bad luck, wrong place at the wrong time and that can happen anywhere.
I heard that when a thief is caught and convicted in JA, it's hard time, so these people are really stricken with "hard times" and I do believe that some of these culprits are drug addicts and owe a debt .. if they don't take this risk, then they are surely prey by their own people. It must be awfully hard to wake up each day with a smile -- and smile they do :-) to face no job and sometimes no home and hungry, probably with kids to feed somewhere on the island. We are not talking about our own countries which are basically turning into welfare states .. no food banks, no financial help of any kind .. I talked to a couple of good people there and thieving does cross their mind when they are "hungry" and we line the establishments along the beach eating and drinking .. they hide away at dinner time have you noticed? Not the type of food they want to eat anyway .. that's why most stay healthy. Ok ranting along here .. I don't write often but it builds my strength and understanding for my next reach as I pack my bags full of gifts, toiletries, dishes, clothing for the needy ones. Blessed day everyone.
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