Two generations ago Michael Manley (PM) started the concept of "capture land" ...
Before that squatting was unheard of in Jamaica.....
Two generations ago Michael Manley (PM) started the concept of "capture land" ...
Before that squatting was unheard of in Jamaica.....
Last edited by captaind; 06-11-2014 at 04:41 PM.
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Captain Dave
"The fact that you post on another website about boardies on here being caught up in negativity and causing problems in negril, is intriguing to me. A man with two faces has no integrity to me, so your personal attack would only mean something to me if it was from someone with character."
strike three, you are ouuuuuuttttt. Any negativity I have posted regarding anyone has heard it straight from me as well. So two faces need not apply.
Westender, if you come to my yard and throw a stone I will certainly throw one back.
Rob, thanks for getting the name right.
Flip, you are too funny.
I heard that it was in reference to people heading to the beach on the train 100 years ago.. They used to put their lunches in Shoe boxes. The term originated from that. It would frustrate the business owners who sold food.
Now it is just a general term for non-locals.
OK just to get this out of the way, some of us including me, thought Westender is someone who used to post under a certain name; I now do not think she is that certain person. (Hi Westender!)
There are WAY MORE LURKERS READING this board than people who post. When someone decides they want to register and post, how about getting to know them for who they are and not run them off because they have strong opinions, REGARDLESS of what those opinions are? There are boardies I didn't care to meet when they first appeared, that over time I became more interested in meeting them. Now that I think Westender is a different person, I will start fresh with my perception of her - well, I have to actually, given that her strong opinions about smoking, do not mirror her opinion about squatting. I find people interesting...
To the topic;
The sense I see in the 3/30am time for razing the structures is that folks would have already gotten some sleep, soon to be waking anyway and daylight coming on rather than nightfall.
The people of Jamaica have let their issues go on so long, even though many things worked against the people, they got used to it, sometimes they got a little benefit from it, they developed the mentality that they were entitled to those little 'benefits', and on it continued. The JPS/electrical supply system is a simple, clear example that can be applied to multiple challenges around the island. People who do not have properly metered account service have more gadgets and don't conserve energy. They use 2-3 times more current than people who are properly and SAFELY connected, who know they have to live within their means. The un-regularized users put extra strain on the system and even more important cut into the financial capital JPS should be accumulating to maintain and upgrade the aging system. You do not have to be an engineer to see the consequences if this continues.
Right Flip!!!
I took a steam train to Ocean City once.
Definitely have never done that.Originally Posted by Papa Georgie
I have been on a steam train before.
My friend has property in Red Ground with a basic concert structure already built. He has the title to the land and pays taxes. He's found squatters living in the structure he had built. I'm not saying this proves anyone right or wrong. It's just an experience on this topic I thought I'd share. Not solely because of the squatting situation, but my friend is now looking to sell this land for something more secure (and closer to the beach). He wants to sell to us but we aren't willing to take on the issues he's had or try in anyway to maintain\build on a property with the limited time we have to actually be there at this point in our lives. The more we learn the more we think it's best to look into long term rentals when that time comes rather then risk investing in a property of our own.
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Something that adds to the confusion of 'squatters' is that there are all different types...
Some squatters creep into other peoples dwellings- like Kevin mentioned. This is just sickening to think of. What kind of person would feel so entitled?
Some build on land that is clearly someone else's. Not as sickening- but still completely intolerable.
Some find land that is not used, they're not in anyone's way and far from it, and they claim it. A little disturbing, but I can accept this.
and then there's the old school squatters... who that's just what they did- Find unused land and claim it. My grandfather obtained several hundreds of acres in rural Maine. He knew what land he could keep farming when no one else cared or bothered and kept farming the land. Eventually he paid taxes on the land and now its his. Of course- now a days its much harder to do as everything is more documented and previously claimed. But I can completely understand this happening back in the day and completely accept this.
The term RESPECT comes to mind. If one has respect for themselves, the land and everyone around them... I see no harm
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