Heyy nobody is being looked down upon! there is no rebuttal towards his initial post, just saying ..I used to be uptight too...but because of NEGRIL, I no longer "sweat the small stuff"
Thanks Negril...I heart u!
Heyy nobody is being looked down upon! there is no rebuttal towards his initial post, just saying ..I used to be uptight too...but because of NEGRIL, I no longer "sweat the small stuff"
Thanks Negril...I heart u!
when was the original poster in Negril? It may have seemed to be more prevalant and persistant due to what seems to be an exceptionally slow season right now(from what i have read in recent posts and from our family friends on the island)? When people are straving they try a little harder perhaps than when times are better and there are more potential customers available???
I'd have to disagree I've been following this thread the entire time and maybe he wasn't so much as "looked down upon" but there was no real acceptance of his opinion during his OWN experience.. as a new member it really comes across that if the opinion of a poster is not positive and I take it is because all of you are very much in love with Negril (and why shouldnt you be) that you are defensive .. almost like a mother and her child. It's always hard to depict tone from text but sometimes it reads through whether it was intentional or not ... this is the tone that is reading through. Makes me a bit nervous to write my first Trip Report in the anticipation that I might not like something while I'm there. I will most likely skip that part in my report. Even now I'm pretty sure I'm going to get blasted because of this but I just thought that coming from someone that doesnt have an opinion about the "higglers" therefore not biased about Negril (yet) lol I could shed some light on the overall tone of the thread.
I have considered taking a white tee shirt, writing on it, and wearing it on 7-mile walks.
It would say "No thanks mon, mi all set. Respect!!"
Not sure how that would go over...haha.
I thought about a little sign I could hold up along with a smile.
here is what you need....lol
I made a bunch of these for a friend of ours...........
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"YES,THAT WOULD BE MINE" I said as my leg that at first gave no pain, started dishing it out in large bunches........"
want more read our blog? our first trip.........http://negril.com/forum/entry.php?58...-The-Beginning
Go ahead and do it , and someone is going to ask you if you need a special roots NATURAL detergent so you can wash your shirt out in the sink to wear tomorrow mon. LOLOriginally Posted by brasi
brasi i just say that same thing "no thanks, i'm already taken care of"..... that's all that's necessary.
i can't understand why so many people, sitting on a public beach, feel that some friendly chat and simple communication with other human beings is some kind of "intrusion" into their private space. geeeeez it's a PUBLIC beach! Privacy is what one gets at a villa, a secluded cliffs property, or an A/I -- but the regular ol' public beach is for everyone .... the public is all over the place - LOL.
but - aside from my own personal POV on that -
i really don't think people did not 'accept' the OP's opinion. many of us said we understand how they felt, we know how it is.... and offered suggestions of trying another location or another type of accommodation, if it really bothered them that much.
the real point, though, is not that people are being defensive or anything like that - It's about giving the OP - in answer to their question - a better understanding of how things go down there, and what the REAL reason is, that there are so many vendors and higglers around. The thread title indicates that the OP arrived at an erroneous conclusion regarding vendors - it's not what they think.
So if they are actually seeking a real answer, so maybe next time they go they'll have a better understanding and won't be so annoyed - there were several provided as to what the real deal is with the beach vendors.
Last edited by MissBlue; 08-30-2011 at 10:13 AM.
Manda,
I dont think anyone here has an issue with what the OP felt during their trip as we have all felt that in our own way. But to deal with these feelings by expressing them on a public message forum in a way that is condescending and condemns all Jamaicans is obviously offensive to many.
Living outside America for the better part of two decades now, I find it startling how many Americans dont understand other countries of the world, or even their neighboring countries for that matter. But for me to phrase my feelings as "Why are Americans so stupid when it comes to the world around them?" and post this on a public forum would not win me many positive comments from the American crowd. Not all Americans are like that - so the blanket statement proposed would not even be accurate in the first place. People reading that comment would be well within their right to point that out. Essentially, when you are posting something for the world to read, you need to keep in mind how your words will come off. This is not your private Facebook wall, but an international travel forum. There are ways of getting your point across without offending people.
The main issue that the OP seemed to have by the comments was when they were awoken on the beach by a vendor. There is no excuse for this behavior. Simply none. But I must ask again why blame all Jamaicans for this, why not complain about the property that allowed it? Most properties would never allow this to happen, so how has this become all Jamaicans fault and not the fault of a single property?
And the scammer concept that is prevalent in the OP's first comment does not seem to be based on facts according to their own words. Since the OP says they never gave any of the beach vendors a dime, how would they know if anyone was scamming them or not? To assume and then post for the world to read everyone you meet in Jamaica is scamming you is one of those comments that will obviously offend many and will be responded to in that manner.
The OP also stated that they didnt intend to single out just Americans, but nevertheless entitled their post "Why do Jamaicans think Americans always need something?". In addition to obviously singling out of American tourists, it does imply an "us vs. them" feeling from the outset. This will also tend to color how people respond to the post. If you post something with combative overtones in the first place, then it should not come as much surprise that some of the replies will come back that way.
And to call part of another culture "silly" as in "silly fist bump" is condescending at best. I am sure this line or even the attitude behind it did not win them many friends here on the board or in Jamaica for that matter.
It is one thing to not like something and state what you didnt like. No one here has any problems with that. Nothing in this world is perfect and we all know that. But if you choose to state your dislikes in a way that is confusing, combative and condescending, then it should come as no surprise if the replies are less than favorable.
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You said it Rob!! the part in bolded up top is what I find offensive. I have been to Jamaica just once stayed in the Ironshore neighbourhood as guests of wealthy Jamaicans who have no desire to live anyplace outside of Jamaica. So, not all jamaicans are the way your threadline depicts them.
I understand what the OP is saying but, your threadline should not read Why do Jamaicans etc. etc.
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