Quote Originally Posted by Tanfastic View Post
First and foremost my heart goes out to the families involved, secondly the entire gun debate is a joke, this isn't about guns but the moral decay of our society. I have never seen a gun shoot itself, or a knife stab somebody by itself. Accompong my question to you is what do you think about the murder capital of Chicago? If you aren't aware they have the strictest gun laws in the USA. What we need is a better society of compassionate people, people who actually care about others. We toss about the word "Respect" here on the forum a lot, but we in turn "bash" each other if we don't see their viewpoint. I'm guilty of it as well, but let's not say guns are the reason for all of this. BTW, I'm not a gun owner, a member of the NRA nor do I care to ever have a gun! I'm an owner of personal responsibility and for teaching my children right from wrong, for spanking them if they did wrong, and for loving them with praise and life. I'm 53 years old, not wealthy, fiscally conservative and socially liberal so no need to throw the term right winger at me. What I have in life I earned, never asked for a handout, hopefully I never will!

My viewpoint only!
We are oh so similar except for the gun ownership piece.

Quote Originally Posted by Jaherring View Post
I feel much safer with my 9mm close by.
Me too. My dogs are the deterrent, my Glock is the enforcer. Sadly one of these men were armed, however he was picked off before he had time to react. And more folks are armed on the West End than most would believe, especially business owners. Looks like it is time for an increased presence of plain clothes officers. Leave the stoners alone on the beach and hit the West End.