Maybe they dealt with shooters

[tubes]

"Confirmed: Two men shot dead by Westmoreland Police

13/08/2014 20:09:00


Two men were shot and killed in a section of Westmoreland last night. Police accused the men of taking part in a number of robberies in the parish. According to the police, sometime after 7 pm, the two accused men entered a Supreme Ventures establishment in Orange Hill, and held staff members at gunpoint, before leaving with an undetermined sum of cash. The men then reportedly stole liquor at a nearby Supermarket. Police alleged that, when the men entered the Brighton community, they engaged lawmen in a shootout, and both men were killed. Two illegal guns and several rounds of ammunition were seized. The identities of both men were not released."

After reading this I did little check on murders in negril, in the past year there has been 13 shootings in negril. Can't find any info on arrests of these incidents. We all know of the 3 recently, I know personally of 5 including the three. It might be time to rethink your plans if regard your safety. I don't know what's going on but if there was a drastic reduction in tourists something would probably be done. Fearing for your life on vacation is not acceptible. Let the messenger blasting begin.........tubes.

[Rob]

As I have mentioned recently, the first information that you hear may not be the most accurate. It is not so much about the messenger, but more about the source.

The above was copied directly from On The Ground News, a "Citizen Powered News service" which has the catch phrase "See it/Hear it. Spread it. Confirm It." If you sign up for an account on OGNR, you are able to create/update/edit any report - somewhat similar to how Wikipedia works. They do not consider themselves mainstream media. As they say:

IF YOU SEE IT... POST IT.
IF YOU HEAR IT... POST IT.
IF YOU HEAR OF IT... POST IT.
OTHERS WILL SEE IT.
OTHERS CAN VERIFY IT.

Take their "news" with this in mind. Who is/was the source and who confirmed it? Anyone can do either or both.

On the other hand, one of the two largest mainstream newspapers in Jamaica has a differing take on the story. Two robbers were shot and killed by police in the Parish of Westmoreland and two guns were recovered. But this is where the similarities end.

The incident took place around 7:30, not in Brighton but in Little London. The robbers went into a Supreme Venture (Cash Pot Lottery) outlet while police from Sav La Mar were already inside the location. They were shot by police after attempting to rob the outlet and no money was taken and both robbers were taken to the hospital and pronounced dead. For the entire article, the link is as follows:

http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/...empted-hold-up

No mention of any robbery spree was made, no mention of Orange Hill or a supermarket or Brighton. Whether these dead robbers had anything to do with the incidents in Negril two weeks ago is anybody's guess. But that would only be a guess, not anything that can be mentioned factually. It could as easily be a copycat robbery attempt gone bad. But that is also just a guess.

One thing that is a fact is that the police are not taking the recent incidents that happened 2 weeks ago lightly. Two robbers found out the hard way. And another fact is that no visitor to the island was hurt in any of the recent incidents.

[Misti1]

I know this is a moot point, but this question could be easily answered in the US, unless these gunmen have access to several different weapons and change up. If bullets could have been recovered from the previous crimes (even in autopsy) and then they test fired the seized weapons, they could compare the bullet patterns and then could tell if these same weapons were used in previous crimes. I do not know if Jamaica has this level of forensic science yet. They could actually link these two to any previous incidents which would give the families some closure and bring some peace of mind to the community....however.... get two bad guys, 4 will usually replace them.

[scotch bonnet gal]

Was this news in the Jamaicain Observer or Gleaner?

[Rob]

Scotch Bonnet Gal,

Please read my above post. The original post was from a non-mainstream source. My information about the incident comes from the Jamaica Observer, a mainstream media news service.

[BostonBob]

No mention of whether gun involved in robbery in which police shot the alleged robbers. I assume they had guns and hope they could compare the bullets from the Negril mutders and a connection would be huge.

[Rob]

No mention of whether gun involved in robbery in which police shot the alleged robbers. I assume they had guns and hope they could compare the bullets from the Negril mutders and a connection would be huge.

BBob,

In the link I posted to the actual news story, there are 3 references to the robbers having guns. First, "when two men entered and brandished firearms." Second, "the men opened gunfire at the officers" and last "Two .38 revolvers were reportedly retrieved after the shooting."

[Accompong]

I assume they had guns and hope they could compare the bullets from the Negril mutders and a connection would be huge.

It has only been in the last few years that forensic analysis of firearm and ballistic evidence could be processed on the island. Here is a quote from a US State Department posting.

In 2012, the National Forensic Sciences Laboratory, with the assistance of INL-provided equipment, demonstrated a 62% increase in its ability to analyze and process ballistic evidence for the prosecution of gun crimes (firearms account for 70% of all murders in Jamaica).

INDECOM's oversight of crime scenes and police-involved shootings has dramatically improved during that same period.

[negril#1fan]

I can remember back in the day, it was a huge thing/news, if word got out that someone actually had a firearm.... For the most part, they didn't exist...

[ROBIN]

"Confirmed: Two men shot dead by Westmoreland Police

13/08/2014 20:09:00
It might be time to rethink your plans if regard your safety. I don't know what's going on but if there was a drastic reduction in tourists something would probably be done. Fearing for your life on vacation is not acceptible. Let the messenger blasting begin.........tubes.

I will be damned if I am going to let some idiots make me change my vacation plans....I will be careful as I am here in Toronto but no way am I going to not go to my favourite place in the world ...you want to stay home or go somewhere else.... more power to you.