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    Have a red stripe, forget AC and provide us some more detail about the good things on ypur trip to Negril.

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    i would have stayed in Jamaica until they could get me straight home . . . extended vacation on them --- and the best "i can't get to work" excuse ever

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    You may have to at least take a bite of this website. Airlines have almost no aircraft that are not being used for revenue or in maintenance. i would guess that AC would have 1 or 2 spare aircraft on any day. Some days they might have 1 or none.I used to train pilots when they actually had to train in the aircraft. Now they are trained completely in the simulators. The only way that I could get an airplane was to show up at 2 AM and use the airplane until about 6 AM. I mention Miami because that would be the nearest AC station with more than one flight. I use that as an example. Whether you were going to Toronto or someplace else, the same facts apply. It would have been cost prohibitive and nearly impossible to do what you proposed. Every major airline has a team of aircraft and crew schedulers that are on duty 24/7 to resolve problems such as the one you describe. If there had been a spare aircraft in MIA for instance-a one in 5 million chance-AC would still have had to get a crew there to fly the plane to MBJ. That crew would have been dispatched from Toronto or Montreal most likely. All this would have to be weighted against perhaps another irregular operation. In their judgement, they thought that you would be the least inconvenienced by taking the course that they did.If they had somehow found a replacement aircraft, then they would have had an empty airplane in MBJ which would have caused a cancelled flight in another instance.When you drive your car, do you have a spare on standby with a reserve driver? Sometimes we have car trouble and we make the best of it. We meet nice people and perhaps see a place that we have never seen before and eat a an interesting restaurant. That is the nature of travel. Where did they lodge you in MBJ. Did you meet some fellow traveler? I will wager that you have enjoyed most of your flights on AC and other airlines. I predict that you will enjoy many more flights in the years to come. I have always wondered how those gate agents kept their cool and sanity while dealing with unreasonable passengers. And I've never seen anyone eat a website.

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    Apples and oranges. AirCanada can get you to Sydney Nova Scotia or Sydney Australia. Has many aircraft types to get you non stop Toronto to Seoul Korea. WestJet much smaller is based on the Southwest model, inter continental only, one aircraft type, sardine can seating. Air Canada cannot compete. That's why they started Rouge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dash View Post
    Apples and oranges. AirCanada can get you to Sydney Nova Scotia or Sydney Australia. Has many aircraft types to get you non stop Toronto to Seoul Korea. WestJet much smaller is based on the Southwest model, inter continental only, one aircraft type, sardine can seating. Air Canada cannot compete. That's why they started Rouge.
    Westjet flies to many world locations, some with 'code partners'. They seem to have several types of aircraft.
    I've noticed that newer aircraft (737-700 and Airbus A320) have more leg room than old aircraft (specfically 767-300 - yuk).
    Correction: Air Canada might get you to Sydney

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    [QUOTE=thepegboy;155796]Westjet flies to many world locations, some with 'code partners'. They seem to have several types of aircraft.
    I've noticed that newer aircraft (737-700 and Airbus A320) have more leg room than old aircraft (specfically 767-300 - yuk).
    Correction: Air Canada might get you to Sydney[/QUOTE
    Peg Boy Looks like your favourite airline and mine are buying the 767-300-yuk. Used. I wonder if they are AirCanadas old ones?

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    We only fly AC when absolutely necessary. Unfortunately flying out of Saskatoon it's far too often. We used to fly using air miles to Minneapolis on Northwest (then Delta), then buy tickets with the same or American. Air miles screwed that up now, they make you go thru Pearson then take the worlds smallest jet to MSP.
    Maybe if AC didn't fill their seats with non-revenue passengers they would have more money available to service their paying customers.
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    Non-rev passengers get to fly only when there are empty seats. Should there be a shortage of meals, non-rev passengers go without. They take nothing from the full paying passenger. And, at least at my airline, a non-rev will be in serious trouble should they detract in any way from a paying passenger's flight experience. I have lost count of the times that I have assisted regular passengers while non-revving and other non-revs have done more than I. I have transported lost bags miles out of my way so that regular passengers could get to their homes with children rather than waiting at the airport. I have sat and calmed passengers that have had mental breakdowns and panic attacks which prevented an unscheduled landing. Most non-revs are there to help when necessary.I have seen a non-rev mechanic leave his vacationing family, take off his tie and roll up his sleeves and dive into an aircraft engine where no maintenance was available thus preventing a delay or cancellation. So don't begrudge the non-rev too much.

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    What non-rev passengers do is cost money to the airline, thus passing it on to the paying customer. Paying for a ticket means paying baggage handlers, ticket agents, maintenance of planes, fuel, food, drinks, etc etc etc. To say non rev passengers dont impact the cost to paying customers is total BS.

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    I had a similar experience with "delay after delay". Took two days to get home....what I took from it was/is to always have one extra set of clothes and small carry on sizes of toiletries.
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