frankk. The cane question is an interesting one and perhaps you could ask the carver who works right next to White Stands platform what he would charge for a walking cane with `decorations`. I would really like to know and get a handle if you will on a price. So many of the alleged carvers have those `canes` that come un-decorated from offshore and they simply add colour. I`m interested in the real thing and the man next to White Sands is a `real`carver.