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    This sand/beach issue has been discussed here for years. This particular link from June of last year discusses the beach accretion, which is the gaining of beach. On that single page of the thread, there are several pics of the exact same locations taken years apart, some showing more sand on the beach now than in the past.

    http://negril.com/forum/showthread.p...ise#post161327

    I agree with sunray that there are many factors to consider. Putting the word "erosion" in the title of the documentary may help with the number of people who end up watching it because as we all know, a house not burning down is not news - a burning house gets more attention. But to use erosion in the title may not paint an accurate picture of the situation. National Geographic uses the word "erosion" to describe how the Grand Canyon was formed. The Grand Canyon will never "un-erode". But beaches have an "erosion" that can reverse itself, essentially "un-eroding". Here is a quote from the link above for those who dont want to click on the link:

    "Sand on any sea beach comes and goes depending on nature. As the article states, data used was collected between 2000 and 2007. It just so happens that from 2000 to 2005, the names of 18 devastating "named storms" were retired. That had never happened before in the history of weather keeping. And in 2005, there were so many named storms that the weather service ran out of names and started calling them Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta, Epsilon and Zeta. That again has never happened in the annals of weather keeping. With all that wave activity during those 6 consecutive years, it would be impossible for the Negril beach not to shrink in size.

    But since then, the Atlantic storms have returned to their normal historical trends, allowing the beach to gain in size, which is called accretion. And as for the sea level rise, there has been one world wide - the first real satellite data collected from 1993 to 2010 shows a world wide gain of 3 millimeters. In the actual world map shown below, you can see for yourself where the sea level has risen the most. And please look very carefully around Negril, the sea level has either shown no increase at all or has actually decreased by a millimeter or two."

    Back to the present, we were walking the beach the other day and as people went into the water, they got about shin deep but when they reached between 10 to 20 meters out, it became ankle deep. There was a sand bar forming, and that sand can be pushed by the wave action back to the beach, which is what beach accretion is all about. Beaches can and do "un-erode".

    There is a lot to consider for this documentary and look forward to seeing it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob View Post

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    But since then, the Atlantic storms have returned to their normal historical trends, allowing the beach to gain in size, which is called accretion. And as for the sea level rise, there has been one world wide - the first real satellite data collected from 1993 to 2010 shows a world wide gain of 3 millimeters.
    sea levels are rising at 3 mil per year and gaining . You are in denial to think not in Negril

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    Quote Originally Posted by pine tree john View Post
    sea levels are rising at 3 mil per year and gaining . You are in denial to think not in Negril
    Sea levels don't rise evenly everywhere. This is a fact that you can independently verify. I don't claim to know anything about sea levels in Negril, but you should probably do some research.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TAH View Post
    Sea levels don't rise evenly everywhere. This is a fact that you can independently verify. I don't claim to know anything about sea levels in Negril, but you should probably do some research.
    Exactly! The global satellite data map in the link I posted independently demonstrates the worldwide sea level rise and lowering. This was the very first factual global satellite information available from space. Tectonic plate activity can easily explain that, as other of nature's powers. To blindly believe sound bites on the news is not research...
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    Quote Originally Posted by pine tree john View Post
    sea levels are rising at 3 mil per year and gaining . You are in denial to think not in Negril
    What is 3 mil?

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    Quote Originally Posted by captaind & Linston View Post
    What is 3 mil?

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    I almost asked the same thing. Because a "mil" is actually 1/1000 of an inch, but I think he was going for mm, which would still not be correct because sea levels are not rising 3mm/year. If they were, we'd be in real trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TAH View Post
    I almost asked the same thing. Because a "mil" is actually 1/1000 of an inch, but I think he was going for mm, which would still not be correct because sea levels are not rising 3mm/year. If they were, we'd be in real trouble.
    3mm per year from 1993 to 2010 is what the satellite data provided. The range was from losing 10mm per year in some places to gaining 10mm in others. The global average turned out to be 3mm of sea level rise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob View Post
    3mm per year from 1993 to 2010 is what the satellite data provided. The range was from losing 10mm per year in some places to gaining 10mm in others. The global average turned out to be 3mm of sea level rise.
    Huh, I thought the average rise was a lot less than that annually. The more you know...

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