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    Glad to report that I saw both Norman and Dean selling food on the beach today. All is good and common sense prevailed.

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    Yes, saw Norman on the beach today. The newly amended laws were designed to be as much about compliance and not just displinary in nature. The future will be interesting.
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    Aww. Husband and I bought patties from him last month. Always buy patties from him every year.

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    Its the honest people paying the price for a law that also seeks control for the Government on the beach when the sale of ganga has been figured out. Just saying there is always a bigger picture. A vendor is a vendor. These honest vendors are as much part of the beach as the sun and sand. 2 cents...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by lacdeloo View Post
    Its the honest people paying the price for a law that also seeks control for the Government on the beach when the sale of ganga has been figured out. Just saying there is always a bigger picture. A vendor is a vendor. These honest vendors are as much part of the beach as the sun and sand. 2 cents...........
    The sale of ganja by "vendors" on the beach is illegal. This is still in the process of being figured out. Ganja has been decriminalized, not legalized. Less than 2 ounces is a fine, over 2 ounces or distribution, transport or sale is a fine trip to the local jail...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob View Post
    The sale of ganja by "vendors" on the beach is illegal. This is still in the process of being figured out. Ganja has been decriminalized, not legalized. Less than 2 ounces is a fine, over 2 ounces or distribution, transport or sale is a fine trip to the local jail...
    Hi Rob. I am just guessing but she did say "when" so I think she feels it is a preliminary step to a government takeover of the ganja trade "when" it eventually becomes legal..
    I am more questioning the logic behind the "Just saying there is always a bigger picture. A vendor is a vendor. These honest vendors are as much part of the beach as the sun and sand. 2 cents".

    It is true that there is always a bigger picture. Often a thought out in advance agenda but a vendor is not always a vendor. An illegal, unlicensed vendor is a "higgler" and a legal, licensed vendor is a vendor. As good and honest as Norman and Dean seem and probably are, they are not in compliance of the law designed to regulate vendor sales and are thus "higglers". Honest, licensed vendors are a welcomed part of the beach as are the sun and sand. Until you start to eliminate illegal activities, selective enforcement of compliance laws is problematic. Stopping an obnoxious, unlicensed bracelet selling higgler but allowing an honest, unlicensed patty seller is still just selective enforcement.

    Go down to Barnett Street in MoBay and try to get into a licensed, rent paying shop and not have to step over unlicensed, non paying "higglers" blocking the door area and the sidewalk. That is what eventually happens when you tacitly allow non-compliance to grow and flourish without enforcing the laws.

    It will take a little time to make the licensing laws work to the general acceptance of all parties involved and some accommodations will have to be met to include some non-traditional forms of vending. In the long run it is in everyone's best interest to see this happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lacdeloo View Post
    Its the honest people paying the price for a law that also seeks control for the Government on the beach when the sale of ganga has been figured out. Just saying there is always a bigger picture. A vendor is a vendor. These honest vendors are as much part of the beach as the sun and sand. 2 cents...........
    Lac...I'm not understanding what you're saying in the first sentence.

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    Just saying control or even regulations have to start some where, and even though these vendors fall into the same category as Higglers, why do we paint them all with the same paint brush when their service is wanted, invited and needed. If these gentlemen are grouped with the offending higglers it just doesn't seem right. Time will tell what will unfold, but till then everyone loses, them { loss of wages } us part of the beach that we have grown to love an expect. The comment of government control just refers to the fact that when and if legalization occurs, the powers that be will want to make sure that they are in control and getting their share, but they do seem to let some fall through the cracks. now Im up to 4 cents Maybe Im so lazy I just love when food comes to me............... also you could determine the time of the day by these guys without having a wrist watch. peace !

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    Quote Originally Posted by lacdeloo View Post
    Just saying control or even regulations have to start some where, and even though these vendors fall into the same category as Higglers, why do we paint them all with the same paint brush when their service is wanted, invited and needed. If these gentlemen are grouped with the offending higglers it just doesn't seem right. Time will tell what will unfold, but till then everyone loses, them { loss of wages } us part of the beach that we have grown to love an expect. The comment of government control just refers to the fact that when and if legalization occurs, the powers that be will want to make sure that they are in control and getting their share, but they do seem to let some fall through the cracks. now Im up to 4 cents Maybe Im so lazy I just love when food comes to me............... also you could determine the time of the day by these guys without having a wrist watch. peace !
    I suppose the same argument could be used for the prostitutes and the horseback riding on the main beach which are not only illegal but can be harmful. There are many who may say they are wanted, invited and needed. Heck, everyday on the beach I see visitors on the horses so obviously they are wanted. And prostitution isn't called the world's oldest profession for nothing. But where would you draw the line?

    If you allow food vendors like Norman and Dean to sell without licenses or inspections, what about the other higglers who are not as responsible as Norman and Dean and may be selling food items that make people sick? Common sense dictates that there needs to be some form of regulation on the vending of food items. Although I still think those HOT warning labels on HOT coffee does go a bit far... (grin)

    This can be a complex issue.
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