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    Manda there is discrimination as to NATIONALITY. Some places are known NOT to be local friendly where locals are hassled even on PUBLIC beach. My hubby was allowed to walk on to a property where I was stopped and told NO!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sweet_Dawta View Post
    Manda there is discrimination as to NATIONALITY. Some places are known NOT to be local friendly where locals are hassled even on PUBLIC beach. My hubby was allowed to walk on to a property where I was stopped and told NO!
    Okay now were are getting somewhere .. Why are there "tourist" only areas even in a so called Public area? Do you have an ideas on why you might have been subjected to this sort of discrimination?

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    I am confused. Very much so.

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    Now I've read this whole thing twice, I must be "thicker" than I thought, my wife was right.........

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    Anyone who has lived in or extensively traveled around Jamaica knows about discrimination of many types that occur all the time there. From a "tribal" societies in mother Africa to the "garrison" politics, Jamaica is fractured along many fault lines. Be it PNP vs JLP or Waterhouse vs Seaview etc. the fractures only multiply and get wider from there.

    "Blakkas", "Brownings" bleaching etc., color along with the socio-economic level (ghetto vs "uptown": "country" vs "town") all give further reasons to discrimate.

    The problems have no real world solutions expecially from a tourist standpoint. We can only witness and comment on what we see but that is only the tip of the iceberg of what is really happening. I was married to a Jamaican woman and lived in what is called "ghetto" (Seaview Gardens) so I had a chance to live it and get a little better perspective of the problem but have never understood exactly why Jamaicans seemed to want to hold their boots to someones neck in their dealings with each other.

    They say not to discuss religion or politics....well I can certainly understand that logic after living in both PNP and JLP areas. I would think that discrimination is also difficult to discuss. It is hard to have a productive discussion when so many points of view are biased towards being the discriminated one or siding with the discriminators.

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    A friend said, "One trip to Jamaica will open your eyes and too many trips will shut them"

    bill, i'll go and add that after our eyes are opened, one pretty well has to shut them to be able to go on . . .

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    never understood exactly why Jamaicans seemed to want to hold their boots to someones neck in their dealings with each other.
    societal fallout from Colonialism...... when the disenfranchised rise above previous circumstances, they will adopt the same 'power' behavior as the prior colonial oppressors; a developing society cannot help but take on some of the same behavior that was modeled over previous generations, including the 'power structure' behavior of the colonialist society.

    For some people, as soon as they get a "little" personal self-confidence & personal sense of power, they wield it mercilessly above anyone they perceive to be "less than".....because they can. there are some people for whom making someone else small, is what makes them feel big -- that's already universal across human behavior, and it's made even worse when the 'bully mentality' of colonialism is part of the history of the society in which they live - because it's seemingly 'validated' by that history, as the correct way to be.
    Last edited by MissBlue; 10-28-2011 at 02:19 PM.

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    Thank you MissBlue. Well said.

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    You said that much better than I could have ever hoped to , Miss Blue. It took me several years of living here & really "studying" the culture to understand that.

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