I am not saying that there have not been some good shows but they are hit and miss....I am talking about a place that you could hang all day, great vibe, great music, great crowd and almost guarantee that one of the weekly shows would be over the top with way over half the audience being locals and everybody having a great time...Jimmy was the only family member left and he never was able to make it happen. the place now has a very hard feel to it with all the concrete....