One Love Bus

[Borntobeach]

Not being a regular on this forum...or any other forum...as I work full time and have a family to care for, I had no idea it would create these responses. I do realize that I did not chose my words carefully on the original post, but it is what it is.
Anyway, the hubs and I have always enjoyed doing the crawl, but felt this time had a different vibe. Lenbert was not his usual happy go lucky self that we were used to, (yes..I know people can have bad days) and then going to his home bar for drinks was really strange. I had never seen a post on this, so I thought I would put it out there on this forum only. Had we known about this new stop ...we probably would not have gone, as I felt after the crawl that we wasted a precious afternoon of our wonderful vacation.
That being said....I think Lenbert is a good guy, and wish him well with his business.

*** On a different note, we went to Somewhere West for an afternoon....What a GREAT place...enjoyed lunch, drinks and swam in the saltwater pool...watching the Sunset. They will pick you up on the beach and drive you back for free...

[Accompong]

Not being a regular on this forum...or any other forum...as I work full time and have a family to care for, I had no idea it would create these responses. I do realize that I did not chose my words carefully on the original post, but it is what it is.
Anyway, the hubs and I have always enjoyed doing the crawl, but felt this time had a different vibe. Lenbert was not his usual happy go lucky self that we were used to, (yes..I know people can have bad days) and then going to his home bar for drinks was really strange. I had never seen a post on this, so I thought I would put it out there on this forum only. Had we known about this new stop ...we probably would not have gone, as I felt after the crawl that we wasted a precious afternoon of our wonderful vacation.
That being said....I think Lenbert is a good guy, and wish him well with his business.

*** On a different note, we went to Somewhere West for an afternoon....What a GREAT place...enjoyed lunch, drinks and swam in the saltwater pool...watching the Sunset. They will pick you up on the beach and drive you back for free...

After you step in poop, it is never a good idea to keep scraping your shoes on everything you see. Just move on and we know you "wasted a precious afternoon of (your) wonderful vacation" because you had already made that perfectly clear... multiple times.

Peace and Guidance

[Bnewb]

Not being a regular on this forum...or any other forum...as I work full time and have a family to care for, I had no idea it would create these responses. I do realize that I did not chose my words carefully on the original post, but it is what it is.
Anyway, the hubs and I have always enjoyed doing the crawl, but felt this time had a different vibe. Lenbert was not his usual happy go lucky self that we were used to, (yes..I know people can have bad days) and then going to his home bar for drinks was really strange. I had never seen a post on this, so I thought I would put it out there on this forum only. Had we known about this new stop ...we probably would not have gone, as I felt after the crawl that we wasted a precious afternoon of our wonderful vacation.
That being said....I think Lenbert is a good guy, and wish him well with his business.
*** On a different note, we went to Somewhere West for an afternoon....What a GREAT place...enjoyed lunch, drinks and swam in the saltwater pool...watching the Sunset. They will pick you up on the beach and drive you back for free...

The same as you've asked about Lenbert's business, I wonder why you haven't asked where the "proceeds go" for Somewhere West's bar business?
Borntobeach....you do realize that Somewhere West also runs a hotel business and the owner who is from New York also started a tour business here in Negril a few years back.
You don't seem to have a problem with the Somewhere West owner adding a bar business to her repertoire but have issues with Lenbert doing the same. Hmmm....

[saeyedoc]

Sorry, but I thought the whole idea behind the bus was to show tourists spots they would not get to on their own in hopes that they would go back another time to increase business for those places. Going to Lenbert's personal bar that is only open when the bus comes through doesn't really fit into that category, nor does a shantytown stop.

[Rob]

Sorry, but I thought the whole idea behind the bus was to show tourists spots they would not get to on their own in hopes that they would go back another time to increase business for those places. Going to Lenbert's personal bar that is only open when the bus comes through doesn't really fit into that category, nor does a shantytown stop.

As I have stated, Lenbert and I created the bar crawl back in July 2011 as a way to entice people to get out of the AIs and see Negril. Since Lenbert was in the Negril Cluster that supported West End at the time, we focused on the West End. A natural by product would be for visitors to return to their favorite spots.

Lenbert's new bar is not in the middle of nowhere, but on Summerset Drive. Back in the 90's that was one of the busiest Lanes on the entire West End. His bar does open special for the crawl as do other bars that normally open later.

Lenbert's Bar is far closer to downtown Negril than Somewhere West by many miles. By opening a new bar on Summerset, Lenbert is helping to bring new life to an area that was once a popular destination.

Kudos to Lenbert.

[Accompong]

Sorry, but I thought the whole idea behind the bus was to show tourists spots they would not get to on their own in hopes that they would go back another time to increase business for those places. Going to Lenbert's personal bar that is only open when the bus comes through doesn't really fit into that category, nor does a shantytown stop.

saeyedoc, I have no quarrel with the notion that Lenbert's original and (I think) current plan is to get people out of their comfort zone a little by exposing them to new, out of the way businesses in hopes of helping them as well as paying for his costs to operate the buses. Lenbert is a business man who reacts to the feedback he gets as any good business man does. I don't think it is up to us to question any business owner as to how he runs his business. We can suggest changes and we can vote on what is offered by using our pocketbook. As bnewb points out, other businesses do much the same as Lenbert but their motives and methods don't seem to get anywhere the scrutiny that Lenbert's business does.

I think also that Lenbert's business started out by getting more adventurous people out to see a part of Negril that they were not familiar with. Most of these people were thrilled and rarely complained. Now, the bus has gotten so popular that it has become "the thing to do" that attracts more "fussy" tourists who complain to hear their own voices. I believe that Lenbert never envisioned it getting so popular that it is now starting to get a little out of hand. Hard to put the Genie back in the bottle.

35 years of Jamaica has taught me that businesses have a hard enough time existing. I know you have been going for a long time as well and I read a lot of what you write and agree with most of it too. I just think we need to let Lenbert sort out his own offerings and the marketplace will dictate his success or failure.

Respect.

[Borntobeach]

Just trying to let other like minded people know about the unusual stop in the middle of nowhere.....so they can make their own decisions about going....
Is this forum for positive posts only????
I will keep scraping my shoes on everything I see until ALL the poop is gone....Thanks !!

[Rob]

Just trying to let other like minded people know about the unusual stop in the middle of nowhere.....so they can make their own decisions about going....
Is this forum for positive posts only????
I will keep scraping my shoes on everything I see until ALL the poop is gone....Thanks !!

Positive posts only? Your original post certainly wasn't positive for Lenbert or the crawl. Obviously this forum is not for positive posts only.

But what is true about this forum is that information posted is not blindly believed. When someone makes a post that others find misleading or confusing, they are able to rationally challenge the post to gain a better understanding of what prompted the information in the first place.

There is nothing wrong with posting negative comments. There is also nothing wrong with questioning the emotions, logic and motivation of any post.

And I am curious as well as to why you are not asking about the proceeds from Somewhere West. How is that different from Lenbert's business?

[saeyedoc]

If Lenbert's bar is open at other times besides when the bus comes there, then it's perfectly appropriate to take people there.

[Bnewb]

If Lenbert's bar is open at other times besides when the bus comes there, then it's perfectly appropriate to take people there.

I still don't understand why he couldn't just open a bar for his pub crawl business.