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Thread: NBCC - The rest of the story/after story from Mrs. Gaynair

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seveen View Post
    robbery and theft is horrible but . . . messing with these folks can give you the gift that kills - use condoms folks
    Amen

    and TicToc too....well put
    Stir IT UP

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    I am glad to hear all side before I comment.I have stayed at NBCC many times over the years,have always locked all doors and have never had a problem.It's up to you to secure your room.Jean runs a nice inexpensive place to stay and I have had a great time everytime!

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    Stories like the one we heard about the theft (an obvious "agreement" between two consenting adults, and I am not JUDGING IT, ce la vie, but I would not myself ENGAGE in it) casts doubt on the real relationships that can develop between FRIENDS of the opposite sex in Jamaica.

    The BIGGEST crime would be to judge everyone with the "arranged relationship" brush, or as Tic said, to jump to that conclusion every time. To do so, and ban a Jamaican from spending time anywhere in their own country because SOME people engage in those paid relationships, is not a tolerable offense. I understand why it's hard not to judge, but I hate the concept of relationships in Negril between a dark-skinned person and a light-skinned person being suspect. If I get that feeling at a resort, I won't stay there.
    Last edited by brasi; 11-22-2011 at 10:04 AM. Reason: decided to delete some personal info

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    perhaps a warning sign in lobby or posted on room doors...or mabey management can be proactive on guests bringing new aquaintances into hotel

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    I agree that a hotel has the right to allow or not allow local visitors. After over 20 years of seeing the runnings first hand I also have the right to not select a hotel that has lax guest rules...There is a place for all of us regardless of which rule you support....
    BE A TRAVELR

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    Quote Originally Posted by BR Mon View Post
    I agree that a hotel has the right to allow or not allow local visitors. After over 20 years of seeing the runnings first hand I also have the right to not select a hotel that has lax guest rules...There is a place for all of us regardless of which rule you support....
    Here's an example from SamSara/Legends...

    18.Does Samsara & Legends allow unregistered visitors onto the property?
    A.Yes! Everyone is welcome at Samsara & Legends Negril Hotels. If a registered hotel guest wishes to invite a friend who is not a registered guest at the hotel, they only have to sign the visitor in at the front desk or with the security guard. If the unregistered guest decides to spend the night at the hotel, there is an applicable fee.
    "Yeah, I'm cocky and I am arrogant. But that doesn't mean I'm not a nice person."

    —Jeremy Roenick

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    If I get a passport issued in Jamaica would you ban me or allow me to stay in the same property as other tourists.
    If you would like to ban people what is the criteria?
    Country of issue of passport?
    Birthplace
    Skincolour
    Accent
    Amount in bank account.
    If someone could define who they would like banned that would make the conversation easier.
    Also are you talking about banning black Jamaicans, mixed and white or just one or two of these categories.What about Jamaicans who were born in Jamaica then moved overseas for 20 years and now come back for a holiday but still have a Jamaican passport?Shall we ban all them too?
    Don't get me wrong I value security at hotels too and I do not like random people walking around who should not be there.But that is anyone regardless of who they are or where they from and if the security is good enough they will know who is doing what and where particularly at the smaller properties which I prefer to stay in.

    That does not mean the properties should ban all Jamaicans that just means get a better security guard.Perhaps the next thing would be the ban of all Jamaican workers in Jamaica . I am wondering if they are not good enough for some people to have around on the same property as them enjoying the same amenities then why would you want them cooking or cleaning for you or serving you drinks.hmmmm
    Last edited by TiCtOc; 11-22-2011 at 12:59 PM.

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    In this scenario regarding the original NBCC post, the friend was not a 'vacation pickup' - he WAS A REGISTERED GUEST AT THE HOTEL, along with the visitor. regardless of who this person 'really' is, as was discovered after the fact (and perhaps which the OP was blind to) - at the time when these incidents occurred, he was a paying guest. So these ideas about barring 'visitors' from hotels are not relevant to this discussion. Nor would that prevent something similar from happening, since it's VERY common for the visitor to register their so-called boyfriend/girlfriend as a hotel guest; their name is on the room.

    none of these ideas being purported about barring local people from being paying guests of a hotel IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY, are anywhere NEAR a solution to the issue that is being discussed. i won't even go into what i think of people want to go on vacation and keep locals out. really? if you want to insulate yourself from the people, yet you are in their country, you may as well just go to a resort at home.

    Trying to "legislate" whether or not individuals hook up with, or get in relationships with, local people is not the answer. it's not a hotel's responsibility to "monitor" guests, or tell them who they can and cannot hang out with.

    the ONLY solution is PERSONAL RESPONSIBLITY. lock your doors. use the security bars. pay attention. behave honestly. tell the truth. if you get involved with a pros or gigolo, know what you're getting into. be an adult and act accordingly - be prepared for the possible consequences; take your lumps if s#$t happens, and don't blame the results on anything outside yourself.

    for those tourists who feel it's a good idea to stay in a property where local people are not permitted; or if they like the idea of management being mommy & daddy, treating hotel guests like 5-year-old-children by "being proactive on guests bringing new aquaintances into hotel". (seriously??) - there are properties with those types of policies in place, if you feel that's the way to go.
    Last edited by MissBlue; 11-22-2011 at 01:54 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissBlue View Post
    the ONLY solution is PERSONAL RESPONSIBLITY. lock your doors. use the security bars. pay attention. behave honestly. tell the truth. if you get involved with a pros or gigolo, know what you're getting into. be an adult and act accordingly - be prepared for the possible consequences; take your lumps if s#$t happens, and don't blame the results on anything outside yourself.
    I totally agree with this statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissBlue View Post
    In this scenario regarding the original NBCC post, the friend was not a 'vacation pickup' - he WAS A REGISTERED GUEST AT THE HOTEL, along with the visitor. regardless of who this person 'really' is, as was discovered after the fact (and perhaps which the OP was blind to) - at the time when these incidents occurred, he was a paying guest. So these ideas about barring 'visitors' from hotels are not relevant to this discussion. Nor would that prevent something similar from happening, since it's VERY common for the visitor to register their so-called boyfriend/girlfriend as a hotel guest; their name is on the room.

    none of these ideas being purported about barring local people from being paying guests of a hotel IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY, are anywhere NEAR a solution to the issue that is being discussed. i won't even go into what i think of people want to go on vacation and keep locals out. really? if you want to insulate yourself from the people, yet you are in their country, you may as well just go to a resort at home.

    Trying to "legislate" whether or not individuals hook up with, or get in relationships with, local people is not the answer. it's not a hotel's responsibility to "monitor" guests, or tell them who they can and cannot hang out with.

    the ONLY solution is PERSONAL RESPONSIBLITY. lock your doors. use the security bars. pay attention. behave honestly. tell the truth. if you get involved with a pros or gigolo, know what you're getting into. be an adult and act accordingly - be prepared for the possible consequences; take your lumps if s#$t happens, and don't blame the results on anything outside yourself.

    for those tourists who feel it's a good idea to stay in a property where local people are not permitted; or if they like the idea of management being mommy & daddy, treating hotel guests like 5-year-old-children by "being proactive on guests bringing new aquaintances into hotel". (seriously??) - there are properties with those types of policies in place, if you feel that's the way to go.
    Yes agreed and this would be oh so impossible to enforce really as many well to do Kingstionians love to vaction in Negril, wouldst thou ban them as well as they are also JAMAICANS.

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