NBCC - The rest of the story/after story from Mrs. Gaynair

[wrtiii]

Tic, you are the one who is making this into a black/white thing, nobody else in either thread did.

The SamSara rules make sense - anyone on property without a legitimate business purpose (from the property's perspective) would need to be signed in by a guest as the visitor of the guest, and there will be a charge if the visitor stays overnight. This of course assumes that the property can afford the significant security force required to make this happen. To reasonably enforce something like this, even the smallest property would need a minimum of 3 security staff 24 hrs/day (one at the beach side, one at the road side, and one at a desk somewhere in the middle to deal with the registration). Are you paying enough for that kind of security?

I think that business are quite good at detecting who is a customer and who is not. If they aren't, they don't last long.

[Yvonne]

To clarify, he was a registered guest. That doesn't make him a paying guest. The tourist was the paying guest who registered him as one of the occupants of the room. As MissBlue said, the registering of the Jamaican BF/GF is common. Trying to legislate who can come in & who can't might sound like a "good" idea but is totally unrealistic &, as the many comments show, is just not right or workable.

NBCC is known as being friendly & open to all. That is one of the many reasons they have a great reputation & are in demand. To discriminate against all to weed out a few bad seeds not a good policy. Signing in visitors/non-registered persons is the best any hotel can do.

[MissBlue]

yes Yvonne, i hear you - but if someone is registered, 'which one' of the guests coughed up the money, is sort of a moot point - cause if both people are registered, and the room is properly paid-for, with both occupant's names' listed, the hotel won't always necessarily know WHOSE money it is. i can use myself as an example - back in the day me and my sweetie divided our time between my hotel and his house - and although i made the booking, used my CC, and was the one who interacted with the hotel, gave them our names, etc., he indeed contributed to the costs.

[Yvonne]

yes Yvonne, i hear you - but if someone is registered, 'which one' of the guests coughed up the money, is sort of a moot point - cause if both people are registered, and the room is properly paid-for, with both occupant's names' listed, the hotel won't always necessarily know WHOSE money it is. i can use myself as an example - back in the day me and my sweetie divided our time between my hotel and his house - and although i made the booking, used my CC, and was the one who interacted with the hotel, gave them our names, etc., he indeed contributed to the costs.

I understand what you are saying, MissBlue. I just wanted to clarify that SHE was the paying guest, he was the additional registered guest. You specifically stated that he was a paying guest & I just wanted to make it clear. Yes, the room was paid for; he stayed there as a guest. In this case, the extra guest was an unemployed male. Not likely he contributed all that much. Cooking skills probably, maybe some fresh food, companionship. Actual financial contribution... doubtful.

Bottom line... people need to use common sense & take personal responsibility. If you're an adult, act like one folks... even on vacation. I see these concepts completely ignored when people are on vacation in Negril.

[TiCtOc]

sorry wrtii I did not mean to make it into any thing just think banning Jamaicans from places in their own country is taking things a bit far.I mentioned the black white thing as I am part of a black/white couple and there are black/white Jamaicans so just wondered if it would be a blanket ban of Jamaicans of any colour or if there would be a criteria and how that could ever be reinforced.

Can anyone explain what they feel the difference is between a guest being invited on property or a guest having paid to be on property?Either way they are still on property It does not make one better than the other but having a guest be signed in is good because security know who that person is with rather than just have people with no connection at the hotel wandering the grounds and possibly getting up to no good.
I have taken Jamaican family members to holiday at a few places in Jamaica
Legends in Negril being one of those places.
I did confirm the arrangements beforehand and there were no issues at all.
I could not dream of emailing a hotel owner who may be Jamaican themselves and having a full Jamaican staff and saying :

Dear Sirs, I would like to holiday at your hotel in Jamaica but I am just enquiring as to if any Jamaican people will be there visiting or working there as I believe that all Jamaicans should all be banned.I do not wish to speak to any Jamaicans or be near any Jamaicans I think they are all robbers.Look forward to staying with you.
Ban Jamaicans in their own place

[gerryg123]

am i the only one feeling an undertone of Racism?

in the USA, most hotels allow paying guests to bring unregistered friends into their room -- even for romantic trysts -- trusting the paying guests' good judgement. why should Jamaica be different????

[sandy-girl]

am i the only one feeling an undertone of Racism?

No, I'm feeling it too. Really sad when all the layers are peeled this is what we're left with. If you're a racist you have no business in Jamaica. Just my opinion.

[MissBlue]

am i the only one feeling an undertone of racism?

nope.

[brasi]

I am a single guy, spending time in paradise. If I meet a nice girl, Jamaican or otherwise, and she wants to come back to my room...have a smoke or drink...etc...then more power to me.

Contrary to ShellyK's opinion of me, that I am some kind of virgin, lol...THIS HAS HAPPENED. I am DANGEROUS. LOL

...especially after drinking on the beach all day. haha

[Muck]

I think, for security purposes, over night guests should be allowed as long as they are logged in as such with the property. Heck, at many hotels/resorts in the States this is a policy. I don't think many would feel comfortable staying at a place where anyone can wonder around the property at any time of the day or night...especially at a place where families are staying. If you are not a paid customer or a registered guest, you should not be allowed on the property after a certain time.

IMO, skin color doesn't matter. I'd feel the same way if I were staying at a hotel in Des Moines, IA.