NBCC - The rest of the story/after story from Mrs. Gaynair

[Misti1]

In this scenario regarding the original NBCC post, the friend was not a 'vacation pickup' - he WAS A REGISTERED GUEST AT THE HOTEL, along with the visitor. regardless of who this person 'really' is, as was discovered after the fact (and perhaps which the OP was blind to) - at the time when these incidents occurred, he was a paying guest. So these ideas about barring 'visitors' from hotels are not relevant to this discussion. Nor would that prevent something similar from happening, since it's VERY common for the visitor to register their so-called boyfriend/girlfriend as a hotel guest; their name is on the room.

none of these ideas being purported about barring local people from being paying guests of a hotel IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY, are anywhere NEAR a solution to the issue that is being discussed. i won't even go into what i think of people want to go on vacation and keep locals out. really? if you want to insulate yourself from the people, yet you are in their country, you may as well just go to a resort at home.

Trying to "legislate" whether or not individuals hook up with, or get in relationships with, local people is not the answer. it's not a hotel's responsibility to "monitor" guests, or tell them who they can and cannot hang out with.

the ONLY solution is PERSONAL RESPONSIBLITY. lock your doors. use the security bars. pay attention. behave honestly. tell the truth. if you get involved with a pros or gigolo, know what you're getting into. be an adult and act accordingly - be prepared for the possible consequences; take your lumps if s#$t happens, and don't blame the results on anything outside yourself.

for those tourists who feel it's a good idea to stay in a property where local people are not permitted; or if they like the idea of management being mommy & daddy, treating hotel guests like 5-year-old-children by "being proactive on guests bringing new aquaintances into hotel". (seriously??) - there are properties with those types of policies in place, if you feel that's the way to go.

Yes agreed and this would be oh so impossible to enforce really as many well to do Kingstionians love to vaction in Negril, wouldst thou ban them as well as they are also JAMAICANS.

[MissBlue]

lmao airportworker - i'm sorry but that is patently ridiculous.

-- taking mugshots of all visitors on the property - seriously?? Putting forth the concept that "all visitors are potential criminals unless proven otherwise"?? You seriously think insulting people in this manner would be a good business practice, or garner more customers for the hotel? this would be an EPIC fail.

besides which it's logsitically impractical - what hotel wants to add a whole new layer of bureaucratic tasks for staff to do, along with the extra filing and categorizing this would create for the front desk staff?

not to mention insulting & demeaning guests by implying said guest is a child who cannot be responsible for themselves and their visitors.

again - it is not the hotels' responsibility to monitor, nor legislate, who their paying guests associate with. if their policy is to permit visitors on-property, all they can do is require said visitors to sign in, for basic security purposes; imho that's just basic common-sense.

[MissBlue]

Agreed Yvonne, i understand and take your point as well.

and this too S.J. Gal (and hiya!!) -----> "This is their country not ours. If you don't want them at the resorts don't come to jamaica.. " -

1000% agree and think it bears repeating.

[Muck]

Tic Toc aint making this this into a black and white thing.. People on here want "locals" not to be allowed at hotels, resorts, condos etc..... This is their country not ours.. If you don't want them at the resorts don't come to jamaica..

I'm not getting that....I think what people "on here want" is to feel safe while on vacation at their hotel/condo. Allowing unfettered access to unpaying guests or visitors does not contribute to a secure environment. If someone wants to invite someone else back to their hotel room, they should sign that person in at the front desk and then THEY are responsible for the conduct of that visitor and what transpires while that visitor is on site.

Along with that make sure there is plenty of security personnel on-staff to ensure the safety of the paying customers.

It's really not very complicated.

[TiCtOc]

I think it is a funny idea airporter mugshot at check in! could work!

[TiCtOc]

Muck I think guests DO usually get signed in places .I am sure it was said the ladies friend was booked in there.
I want to be safe on my vacation too
Even having signed in guests does not make things safe though as they may not have provided all of their details or even real details tourist or Jamaican.
Personally I do not stay somewhere where people can wander in and out freely and nobody know who they are with or what they are doing there.That goes for anyone from anyplace.
Some of the big expensive all inclusives offer day passes and I am sure they do not have a disclaimer on the passes saying no Jamaicans.
What I think some of us want or mean is we want no violent people or robbers but they come in all shapes and forms and most likely would ignore the sign!All we can do is book at a place we are happy with that employs good honest staff and use the security on offer.

[airportworker]

lmao airportworker - i'm sorry but that is patently ridiculous.

-- taking mugshots of all visitors on the property - seriously?? Putting forth the concept that "all visitors are potential criminals unless proven otherwise"?? You seriously think insulting people in this manner would be a good business practice, or garner more customers for the hotel? this would be an EPIC fail.

besides which it's logsitically impractical - what hotel wants to add a whole new layer of bureaucratic tasks for staff to do, along with the extra filing and categorizing this would create for the front desk staff?

not to mention insulting & demeaning guests by implying said guest is a child who cannot be responsible for themselves and their visitors.

again - it is not the hotels' responsibility to monitor, nor legislate, who their paying guests associate with. if their policy is to permit visitors on-property, all they can do is require said visitors to sign in, for basic security purposes; imho that's just basic common-sense.

Its used in parts of London, Glasgow and in Amsterdam, it is only used when paying guests are signing in others for the day or night, btw you do know that in New York stills are taken from the cctv of everybody who enters at least one hotel i know of, the still is then fed through a number of databases

[captaind]

All passengers who board a cruise ship have a picture ID made as the board.

[Muck]

...or what's wrong with demanding that any guest/visitor provide proof of identification (photo ID) and then just make a photocopy?

[TiCtOc]

Pretty much all establishments here have cctv in the lobby.Would not bother me.

Moral of the story is: Lock your doors and windows as you would at home and STOP scaring me already for my trip!

Think we beat this thread til the death

And~Robbers are everywhere with different passports