NBCC - The rest of the story/after story from Mrs. Gaynair

[MissBlue]

hmmm, knowing that it's being done surreptitiously, (while i still don't like it), - isn't quite as bad as making a public show of taking a mugshot.

either way i don't like it.

and thanks for that info Cap'n; that's just one more reason for me to dislike, and continue to not choose, cruise vacations.

it's the principle of the thing for me - Big Brother monitoring me, especially while on personal time on holiday - just does not sit well with me in any way, shape, or form.

And although i dislike it, i can understand it as, say for example, a condition of employment -- because they are paying me to be there they therefore have a right to know about and monitor who is on company property.

But on personal time, treating the majority of decent people like criminals because of the bad actions of a few, is just wrong and insulting - no matter HOW ya slice it.

[captaind]

hmmm, knowing that it's being done surreptitiously, (while i still don't like it) - isn't quite the same as making a big show of taking a mugshot.

either way i don't like it.

and it's just one more reason for me to dislike, and continue to not choose cruise vacations.

As a retired ship's master I have no problem with security onboard.

[tranquilitygurl]

Think we beat this thread til the death

AMEN!

[airportworker]

hmmm, knowing that it's being done surreptitiously, (while i still don't like it) - isn't quite the same as making a big show of taking a mugshot.

either way i don't like it.

and it's just one more reason for me to dislike, and continue to not choose cruise vacations.

it's the principle of the thing for me - Big Brother monitoring me, especially while on holiday - just does not sit will with me in any way, shape, or form.

don't fly into Heathrow then, within 10 mins, using the photo software i have on my computer i can have a persons info on the screen in front off me, along with details of the last 5 places traveled to and if any warrants have been issued by anybody worldwide

[MissBlue]

cap'n i hear what you're saying - i have no problem with onboard security either; all i'm saying is that having booked the cruise using name, address, CC numbers, etc. and showing one's own ID - that should be enough security information for them to vet the customer without also taking an additional photo of each person.

[MissBlue]

oh come on airportworker - that is a totally different scenario and you know it. we all know that international airports that are highly susceptible to terrorism and criminal behavior are a different animal altogether. i'm talking about leisure time at a hotel.

[captaind]

cap'n i hear what you're saying - i have no problem with onboard security either; all i'm saying is that having booked the cruise using name, address, CC numbers, etc. and showing one's own ID - that should be enough security information for them to vet the customer without also taking an additional photo of each person.

Not to hijack the thread but.......

The picture is stored in the ship's system. The card you carry is you're boarding credential, purchase credit card and room key. When the card is swiped the picture comes up on the screen and it confirms that the card is being used by the proper person.

As to the situation in Jamaica I think it's necessary to know who is using a room or restaurant.

The days when I needed no lock on my room in Negril are gone. It's still not nearly as bad up in Spring Garden but Negril is Babylon...

[irieworld]

not well thought out to ban locals from their own country's hotels. It seems like this board is acting as judge and jury here. Sure, we know she had a friend with her. He allegedly threatened hotel staff. Things were taken. Without a witness to what happened it not possible to say what went down. I have had things stolen from me--it is a terrible violation. I also had a local boyfriend in Negril for 4 years. He had a full time job.I did not give him money. Careful please when judging things.

[MissBlue]

cap'n thanks for the info on that. i now understand that it's for the passenger's convenience, and not the same as a mugshot for visitor purposes as was suggested, to which i was responding.

and i agree negril has become babylonish, and I've become increasingly terribly sad about that. it's pretty difficult NOT to compare it to the place i fell in love with - i can tell myself to 'be here now' and enjoy it for what it is NOW - but still, i find that more and more, the bell cannot be un-rung. it hurts my heart.

for next visit am looking to adventure in other places around the island which i've never been to.

[sandy-girl]

am i the only one feeling an undertone of Racism?

No, I'm feeling it too. Really sad when all the layers are peeled this is what we're left with. If you're a racist you have no business in Jamaica. Just my opinion.