Tourists May Need COVID ‘Passport’

[Lax1724]

Common sense went out the window 2 months ago. We have flu vaccines and every year 70,000 die from the flu in the US. What makes anyone think that a covid vaccine would do any better?

[jennifereisme]

Common sense went out the window 2 months ago. We have flu vaccines and every year 70,000 die from the flu in the US. What makes anyone think that a covid vaccine would do any better?

Could not agree more.

[Stoners6]

You're saying that 70,000 people that have taken the flu vaccine die every year, wow, that's harsh.

[Homebrewer]

Common sense went out the window 2 months ago. We have flu vaccines and every year 70,000 die from the flu in the US. What makes anyone think that a covid vaccine would do any better?

That 70,000 number is actually only an estimate using algorhythms. The actual counts show the numbers are well below 70,000.
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com...es-to-oranges/

From that link: When reports about the novel coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 began circulating earlier this year and questions were being raised about how the illness it causes, COVID-19, compared to the flu, it occurred to me that, in four years of emergency medicine residency and over three and a half years as an attending physician, I had almost never seen anyone die of the flu. I could only remember one tragic pediatric case.

Based on the CDC numbers though, I should have seen many, many more. In 2018, over 46,000 Americans died from opioid overdoses. Over 36,500 died in traffic accidents. Nearly 40,000 died from gun violence. I see those deaths all the time. Was I alone in noticing this discrepancy?
They are estimates that the CDC produces by multiplying the number of flu death counts reported by various coefficients produced through complicated algorithms. These coefficients are based on assumptions of how many cases, hospitalizations, and deaths they believe went unreported. In the last six flu seasons, the CDC’s reported number of actual confirmed flu deaths—that is, counting flu deaths the way we are currently counting deaths from the coronavirus—has ranged from 3,448 to 15,620, which far lower than the numbers commonly repeated by public officials and even public health experts. In fact, in the fine print, the CDC’s flu numbers also include pneumonia deaths.

[justin_a_lyesse]

Requiring at "COVID passport" will eliminate 90% of the tourists from coming to Jamaica. We tourists cannot get tests to begin with unless we are symptomatic. And even those who get tested PRIOR to getting on that aircraft have no guarantee that they will be COVID free once they land in Jamaica. We can get infected anytime after getting tested, in the 72 hours before leaving, in the airport, on the plane etc.

So, the only real way for Jamaica to even come close to controlling the infection is to have tests ready at the incoming airports and test EVERYONE coming in on flights. They could take the passengers info as to where they are staying and notify them as soon as positive results are returned and instruct them on next steps (isolation etc). It's not ideal as an infected tourist could be spreading the virus while in JA, but with social distancing and requirements to wear masks when out in public as much as possible would reduce the spread rate as much as possible.

Of course they would also have to disinfect passengers and luggage upon entry.