Yes it was Bill. It was a point of personal pride with him to keep the bar "old school". He and Susan from Catcha owned the Gardens together. Then one night a woman walked into the bar, started a chat with Bill and long story longer he moved back to the States and married her (I've seen pictures of him walking their dog in the snow.) Susan was also ready to get out of the Gardens after Catcha expanded and took off. Enter Luca and Kerry Ann who bought the businesses on both sides of the road and changed the name to LTU Cliff and Gardens. They did the renovations and improved the bar tremendously. They are great people and really take good care of their guests. Wife and I will be at Gardens the last two weeks of August, so Beth and Jumo, hope to see you there.