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    Quote Originally Posted by ChipS View Post
    "I think masks are just plain dumb and avoid them at all costs."

    I respectfully disagree. I agree that they're probably don't do much good outdoors (except maybe in a large packed crowd outside), but I do think they can work inside. It's true that the virus particles are smaller than the openings in the mask, so a mask won't prevent individual airborne particles from getting through, but they do prevent - or greatly diminish - small particles of saliva that we all expel when talking. From my limited understanding, the dose of virus is important, so a single airborne virus probably isn't sufficient to infect someone. However, those spit particles can be full of virus, so that's where I think masks can help prevent transmission - especially from the person wearing the mask.

    Here's the first paragraph of the conclusion from a peer-reviewed article titled 'An evidence review of face masks against COVID-19' (Proceedings from the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America):

    "Our review of the literature offers evidence in favor of widespread mask use as source control to reduce community transmission: Nonmedical masks use materials that obstruct particles of the necessary size; people are most infectious in the initial period postinfection, where it is common to have few or no symptoms (45, 46, 141); nonmedical masks have been effective in reducing transmission of respiratory viruses; and places and time periods where mask usage is required or widespread have shown substantially lower community transmission."
    I 100% respect your disagreement with my opinion. I struggle with all of the conflicting information that is out there about masks. So, I look to our leaders to see what they do. Countless numbers of them continue to get caught disregarding the mask rules that they put in place.
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    always remember,...
    knowledge is power.
    hAPPY NEW year!

    thanks ROB

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lax1724 View Post
    I look to our leaders to see what they do. Countless numbers of them continue to get caught disregarding the mask rules that they put in place.
    Hah! Our "leaders" apparently learn early on to think that the rules they help make don't apply to them! Look how many of them get charged with DUI, with solicitation, with fraud and theft, with insider trading, etc., etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrtiii View Post
    Hah! Our "leaders" apparently learn early on to think that the rules they help make don't apply to them! Look how many of them get charged with DUI, with solicitation, with fraud and theft, with insider trading, etc., etc.
    Lol.... good one....
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    The only reason I added the BBC link was it was the first place I found a reference to smallpox being eradicated. And also in the attractive visual showing where we are with measles, I am included in that 1968 "bubble" that is shown. I was allergic to the measles vaccine. But there was no quarantine sign nor did any of my vaccinated 6 siblings get it. Measles suck...

    And the medical community I am referring to are the ones cited by the CDC, the "FDA Career Scientists, Input from Independent Experts".
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    With some 3000 new positive cases island wide in the last 5 days, there has only been 30 new hospitalizations. So that is good news of a hospitalization rate of 1%. Similar to regular respiratory viral infection hospitalization rates pre-Covid based on 2017-2018.

    This closely follows the South African experience with Omicron, and we may be looking at the end of this pandemic as we have known it.

    Keep your fingers crossed, knock on wood, pray, GET VAXXED....

    For those curious, the parish of Westmoreland where Negril is located has had 65 new cases of the 3000. The Resilient Corridor must be working as the average number of cases per parish should be over 200.
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    As much as it pains me, I am going to keep politics out of this response. I will simply state that I just returned last night from a phenomenal week at the Beach House Condos (my 7th trip there). Last year, we bailed at the very last second and ended up having to unpack. I would not wish that on anyone. This year, there are a lot less unknowns with the virus. From what I can tell, Rob clearly has taken the time to research information on his own (as opposed to having it fed to him by twitter and Facebook) and is doing his best to get people to think critically and not succumb to panic.
    Everyone is different but personally, I was more afraid of covid killing my vacation than I was of it killing me. We were tested on Christmas Eve and when we got our negative results, we packed. The beach seemed a little less crowded than previous trips but still very vibrant. If anything, there may have been less higglers than before but the regular vendors (pork, lobster, coco bread, fruit, juice) were out in force. I love explaining to people that have never been to Negril than you can get up in the morning and go to the beach and within an hour have jerk pork, followed by coco bread and washed down with fresh squeezed juice without leaving your beach chair (unless you decide to stay at an AI). A Jamaican by the name of Dru opened up a little eating spot right next to the BHC and makes incredible patties. I had to get up out of my chair to order it but, he delivers it to you. We went out to eat at Ivan's and Kuyaba and the crowds were decent. New Year's eve was crazy spectacular, live music up and down the beach and lanterns and fireworks lit up the sky.
    I think masks are just plain dumb and avoid them at all costs. The only time I was required was at Times Square and Hi-Lo. Both places took our temperature too which I was fine with especially at Hi-Lo because it's inside and there are more Jamaicans who probably haven't been tested. On Saturday, a nurse came to our balcony and tested and we had results in 15 minutes.
    Sorry if that was long winded and not entirely deft of politics but I thought the topic of this thread was important and that a response from someone that just got back could help people to decide.
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    Ah how I’ve missed you guys! I too will refrain from inserting politics. Sorry Rob I know I got carried away last time.

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    Politics, especially US politics will be deleted on sight. This ain't FB and we strive for the truth over sensationalism.

    Thanks for your insight LAX!
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    It’s too bad not all forums follow your policy Rob! You rock.

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