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    Some thoughts

    First I must give a huge thanks yet again to the boardies that helped calm and soothe my nerves before going on my first solotrip ever! I don't regret going for a second! I had a great time, and of course i met some wonderful people. My neighbors at treehouse turned out to be the sweetest couple from Canada and they kinda took me under their wings. I'm forever grateful! I also made a friend in an rasta elder, Derrick, who showed me how to cook, took me out dancing and cooked some more. It was much needed since going out alone gave far more attention than I wanted. I really don't care that people thought I was going out with a man 20 years my senior as long as I could dance my ass off without getting hit on every two seconds. Don't get me wrong, it's not that I don't like attention at all. It's just that when you get more compliments in two weeks than you get in 25 years at home you kinda know a good deal of it is a big fat lie.
    I thought about doing a tripreport, but opted against it. Instead I will share some of my thoughts on what it's like being a firsttimer in a sea of longtimers, a different culture and as a single white female.
    I saw some things down there that most definitely made me think. See, I'm an observer. I like to observe the goings on, do some people watching and then find my place in the whole scene. And scene is the word! The beach.. To me it felt like a stage, a scene put up where people play their parts. I did not fit in..
    I don't even know how to write down all the things that went through my head, I'm not sure if I should. I might step on some toes, and it might give the impression that I didn't like Negril. So to get that out of the way, I loved Negril! At least most of it. And I will be back!
    This post will probably end up jumping from theme to theme and back again, but bare with me on that.
    Ok, the higglers. I expected it to be a lot worse form what I read on the internet. I mean, every beach that has that many tourists will have higglers. At least all the places I've been has had them. What I didn't like about it was the security.. Of course, to some degree I liked that it was security there. That I could leave my stuff next to the sunbed and be in the water for 10 minutes and not worry. And that I could just lie there with my book and not get asked to buy this and that. But still, it felt wrong to me. It felt like I was part of robbing the locals of what is actually theirs. To be a part of the reason why higglers are only allowed to walk past didn't sit well with me. Even though I'm used to travelling, higglers and tourism this was my first time staying at a resort like that. It was my first time on a beach with security. I felt protected from something I didn't need protection against. Next time I'm thinking about staying on the other side of the road, and using the public area of the beach. It might be more me.
    Also I found that so many of the tourists I saw where rude, obnoxious and disrespectful. Espescially towards the locals. I heard on more than one occasion tourists calling locals n****** behind their back. I've heard people badmouthing the locals in such a racist way that left me gobsmacked. Why anyone with such meanings would choose Jamaica for a vacation is far beyond my comprehension!
    One night I was at Bourbon beach with Derrick and while we were dancing in the sand this on guy took a whole bunch of pictures of us. Afterwards Derrick went over to say hello as they were sat next to us. He backed when Derrick offered his hand in respect. He did shake Derrick's hand, but only just. Afterwards I overheard him say to his girlfriend he didn't want to talk to the crazy n*****. It outraged me and made me sick to my stomach!
    And then there's the the thing with Jamaican men and tourist women. I knew what was going on before I got there, and I too did meet a man. But still, to see what I can only describe as male prostitution made me think. No wonder some of the local women I met where so hostile! I would be as well! I understand that this is a complex situation, there are many levels here. I must admit I sometimes felt a bit embarrassed to be single, white female down there. I witnessed drunk white women shouting "I love my big bamboo" and kissing at least 3 of the guys walking through the bar. And that was just one of them. I have travelled a great deal to Thailand where as everyone knows the sextourism is well established. But even there I have hardly seen men behave so badly as some of the women I saw in Negril. This is where I have hard time understanding other people, I don't get why some people apparantly leave their head at the airport only to act as spoiled children for the duration of their trip. This isn't news to me, it's everywhere. It never seizes to amaze me though.
    i try to travel with respect and gratitude. I'm allowed in to their country, which in a way is their home, and I try to act accordingly. Off course I fall flat on my face sometimes and do or say something which I regret. Don't we all? I'm privileged to be born in Norway, to be able to travel across the world on my kindergardenteacher salary. I'm lucky and I know it. Does that mean I have a right to behave and act any way I please simply because I have the money to do so?

    Oh.. This post is coming off as negative as I feared it would. Even though there are many more thoughts on these subjects I could share I think I'll leave it there. I said I'll be back in Negril. When I read through my post now it doesn't look like I liked it all that much. I did! The reasons for me coming back can be summed up in a few words. The locals, the music, the feeling!

    Last, but not least, i hope I didn't offend anyone with this. That was not my intention.
    Last edited by utenlov; 02-22-2012 at 09:43 AM.

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    Glad you had a good time!

    Many of the points you made are very insightful.

    The good part of those insights is that you'll be more familiar with the lay of the land next time.

    The bad part? You've demonstrated that racism and small-minded &%&$***'s still exist...even in paradise. I can say that I NEVER see that crap when I'm with boardies. As far as my experience, this board is extremely diverse and inclusive of all backgrounds. Sorry you saw that BS.

    This is great:
    "I'm privileged to be born in Norway, to be able to travel across the world on my kindergarden teacher salary. I'm lucky and I know it. Does that mean I have a right to behave and act any way I please simply because I have the money to do so?"

    No, it doesn't...and it's cool that you see that way. I think you're one chill mofo. Thanks for the report!

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    Very interesting to read about your first experience in Negril and think you did a great job of explaining your thoughts and feelings. No one should be offended.

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    Don't worry about it sounding negative. As a traveling couple, we met some people traveling solo and wondered about their experience. It sounds like you had a great time and met some great friends. As you stated, you loved Negril and you will be back. You're hooked. That's Negril. No one can explain it or totally understand it. You just know you miss it afterwards and can't wait to go back. For me it's the locals and the culture. I'm an observer as well, but in Negril, I'm able to just walk away from the type of people you talked about and realize they don't get Negril and probably won't be back. Their problem, not ours.

    Enjoyed reading your post.

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    nice = your perspective is similar too mine - too many 65 yr old retirees escorting barely 18 ladies to the shows - but i always feel like i am being judgemental even though i am a 30 something single guy that likes to party myself.. ive never seen any racists blowing bs like that down there - if i did i would probably open up on them myself.. nice read, id like to hear more..

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    I share the many of the same thoughts!

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    Glad to hear no one is offended! I must admit that during my first week I was absolutely certain i would never return to Negril. Luckily that changed! And I am sure that my next visit will be completely different seeing as I now know some people and know the lay of the land.
    I guess i kinda see tourism like a twosided story no matter where. It brings money on one hand, but on the other it also brings a whole lot of trouble, nastines and can be devasting for some locals.
    One of the things I did find quite amusing was the fact that my norwegian ways apparently differs a lot from many US and Canadians. The swimming for one thing. I was amazed how many people who just stood in the water, thigh high. We don't do that in Norway, we get in the water and out to the deep end. And then we hang around there. And if we decide to just stand in the water, we stand neck high in it. I don't mean there's anything wrong with keeping your bikinis dry, it's just an cultural observation.
    I did many of those! The cliff jumping as well! I've heard that many tourists get injured jumping form the high plateau at Rick's. I went there on a jetski and planned on doing some jumps from the lower one. I was asked all sorts of question on my swimming ability. That made me think, do people actually jump into water if they can't swim? That can't be right? Well, what I expected in terms of heights did not match what I saw! The high plateau was not at all high compared to norwegian standards. I've jumped from higher when I was 15. We jump from heights from when we learn to swim. Still, being it has been 3 years since i jumped any heights at all I opted for the lower one. I did a couple of jumps and it made me realise how much I love it! I will have to do some more jumping here in Norway this summer so I'm ready for the big one next year! A little off topic here, but here is a video from our annual contest in Oslo http://vimeo.com/28152824. It's not athletes, just regualar Joes with a passion for jumping.
    And then there is the peeing in the bushes! So many people dropped their jaws when I asked what bush was considered the peeing bush. So many places I went to didn't have a toilet so I figured everyone did as we do in Norway when toilet isn't an option. Pee in a bush. I was right, they just weren't used to white girls doing it. I'm not saying I'm the only white girl in Negril that's not bothered by not having a toilet around, there must be more of us! I'm just wondering if it really is a norwegian thing or not?

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    Before there are any misunderstandings, I do not jump like the guys in the video! I just jump straight in, holding my nose, girly style!

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    Interesting report One Love. Everyone's experience of Negril is different. You are world wise, thoughtful and observant and will see and feel things many do not. I didn't read a single thing here I didn't find a valid observation of goings on in Negril. I'm just going to say that my experience of paradise is a paradox...
    What's so funny 'bout Peace, Love and Understanding?

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    Im a pee in the bush kinda girl. When in Negril I walk with 3 things every single time I walk out my door.....
    http://www.sweetspotlabs.com/product...rapefruit.html
    http://www.amazon.com/Charmin-Go-Tra.../dp/B004I50XMS
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    All of these things are actually available from www.rickysnyc.com - a girls dream store for beauty supply and special needs items!

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