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Thread: Tipping etiquette and Jamaica.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flipadelphia26 View Post
    Absolutely. 15% I worked my way through college in the service industry. In the states you make like 3 bucks an hour and depend on the tips to survive. If I have a bad day at my office job, I still get paid the same as I would on a great day. So that's kind of how I look at it.
    I still work in the service industry(not restaurants anymore but I used to work for them) and no one I knows expects 20% for average service.

    I'm sorry, but the wage creep expectations has gotten ridiculous.

    It used to be 10%, now it fluctuates for average service to 15-20%, and in theory I agree that as cost of living goes up the wages should go up to, but the thing is they're going up at twice the rate they should be going up! If the food costs go up the wages will automatically go up to reflect inflation.

    I tip 0% for terrible service when I know the server screwed up big time.

    15% average service, stressed out server, overworked kitchen, etc.

    20%+ above and beyond what I expect when dining out.

    A good server that makes a crucial mistake knows when he doesn't deserve a tip, but at the same time I would never stiff any servers without a helluva good reason.

    I'm laid back when it comes to screw ups and while I was in the restaurant business I learned that people do stiff servers for performing average service, but being realistic 20% for average service is uncalled for.

    A good server still makes money, the bad ones quickly either improve or get the heck out of the business.

    That said, I always tip for coat check(not that I'll need it in Jamaica....) and I usually always drop a $5-20 bill at the host stand because I used to run a host stand and 9/10 times the hostesses/Maitre D gets walked all over by customers, servers, management, etc and I've seen way too much under-appreciation for the craft of seating optimization.

    If you can get me seated in a timely manner when your restaurant is fully booked and I see the hustle then I'm likely to tip the server and the host staff and maybe throw a $10 bill directly to the bussers/food runners.

    That said, I can carry my own darn bags and no I don't believe in paying a service charge and then paying more unless they go above and beyond.

    Speaking of tipping etiquette in Jamaica, does anyone have any success with the credit card sandwich trick at checkin? Is it frowned upon in Jamaica to tip the hotel desk for "upgrades"? I've used it in Vegas to some degree of success and am curious about the results in Jamaica...

    The Sandwich trick is where you put a $5-50 bill between your credit card and ID at check in and hand it over to the clerk to "grease the palms" in order to possibly get upgrades/complementary items. If the clerks can't take it they'll usually give you the money back and life goes on, or at worst you're out the amount you "betted" on upgrades.
    Last edited by Blake; 09-01-2012 at 02:33 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike_D View Post
    However, I am still a little confused about places that charge a "Service Charge" (i.e. Ivan's). I have heard that the Service Charge is a tip and that you are welcome add to it if the service is good. I've also read on some websites that the Service Charge is not considered a tip, and you are expected to tip a full 15-20% on top of that. What's the right answer?
    Mike...below is a link to an earlier thread about service charge/tipping...it should help clear things up.
    http://negril.com/forum/showthread.p...ice-charge-tip

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bnewb View Post
    Mike...below is a link to an earlier thread about service charge/tipping...it should help clear things up.
    http://negril.com/forum/showthread.p...ice-charge-tip
    Interesting to read about the service charge, makes me not a fan of them because it creates inconsistencies in pay among servers depending on how many overall employees there are.

    I get that restaurants need revenue, need to pay their employees, and have overhead; but at the end of the day the margins they have on food/drinks should reflect all of the overhead.

    The final bill should be transparent instead of leaving room for interpretation on how much "extra" we need to leave to pay the employees.

    There's stimulating the economy by eating out(good) and then there's paying too much for a given service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blake View Post
    Interesting to read about the service charge, makes me not a fan of them because it creates inconsistencies in pay among servers depending on how many overall employees there are.

    I get that restaurants need revenue, need to pay their employees, and have overhead; but at the end of the day the margins they have on food/drinks should reflect all of the overhead.

    The final bill should be transparent instead of leaving room for interpretation on how much "extra" we need to leave to pay the employees.

    There's stimulating the economy by eating out(good) and then there's paying too much for a given service.
    From what I understand that charge on the ticket is Govt. taxes and a fee the kitchen staff negotiated in to law as they are not up front in contact with customers like the servers. Most Americans seeing it will think it is like an automotic tip that we add here in the states and NOT tip the poor server who has waited on them so well. Also I NEVER tip on a credit card. In private conversations with servers I am well assured that the NEVER see that money. I give them their tip in CASH , and as Seveen said, I always put it IN THE HAND THAT FED ME.

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    I'd bet my last dime most kitchen staff never get all of their collected fees either.

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    Misti1...Rob explains the service charge in the thread that I posted.

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    I appreciate the feedback everyone.

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    Anything on the check I don't count as a tip.

    I always put cash in hand.
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    dont forget the cook...many times we have asked to meet the cook...and while a handshake is given, slip a likkle something in his palm..when you return make sure he knows your back....I will bet you, your food wont be the same...lol or the amount....
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    "YES,THAT WOULD BE MINE" I said as my leg that at first gave no pain, started dishing it out in large bunches........"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rambo View Post
    dont forget the cook...many times we have asked to meet the cook...and while a handshake is given, slip a likkle something in his palm..when you return make sure he knows your back....I will bet you, your food wont be the same...lol or the amount....
    Mas Rambo...could be a she......

    Miss Izel cooked for us for 11 years....more love from the woman cook I believe

    Jamaican man cook good...Jamaican woman cook with love...if she love you that is......

    But tip same way!
    Last edited by captaind; 09-01-2012 at 04:36 PM.
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