Tipping etiquette and Jamaica.

[Blake]

they are not up front in contact with customers like the servers.

Unless I'm missing something this is irrelevant.

In the US:
Servers are paid a minimal amount by the restaurant+the majority via tipping
bussers//foodrunners are paid hourly by the restaurant+a portion of the tipout by the server.
bartenders are paid a minimal amount by the restaurant+tips from the bar and a tipout by the server.
Hostesses, cooks, managers are all paid hourly or salary by the restaurant.

Unless Jamaica is drastically different in how the restaurant pays the employees, people shouldn't feel obligated to tip the chef separately, the restaurants should be paying reasonable wages to their staff, unless you're saying that in Jamaica they don't, which then makes me wonder where the restaurants get off charging the same amount as US restaurants AND also add a service charge.

[captaind]

Unless I'm missing something this is irrelevant.

Unless Jamaica is drastically different in how the restaurant pays the employees, people shouldn't feel obligated to tip the chef separately, the restaurants should be paying reasonable wages to their staff, unless you're saying that in Jamaica they don't, which then makes me wonder where the restaurants get off charging the same amount as US restaurants AND also add a service charge.

Things are different!

Most on salary are making less than a babysitter in the States.

"I don't think we're in Kansas anymore Toto"

[Blake]

Things are different!

Most on salary are making less than a babysitter in the States.

"I don't think we're in Kansas anymore Toto"

That doesn't put it in perspective, babysitters in the States can actually make a pretty decent amount!

At the end of the day what exactly is the meal paying for in Jamaica if it's so different?

If the prices were a fraction of the price of a US meal your argument about employee pay being so low might hold water.

[captaind]

That doesn't put it in perspective, babysitters in the States can actually make a pretty decent amount!

At the end of the day what exactly is the meal paying for in Jamaica if it's so different?

If the prices were a fraction of the price of a US meal your argument about employee pay being so low might hold water.

After 40 years in Jamaica with a home and two adopted children it's possible that I have a different perspective.

Your perspective is appropriate for you.

[Blake]

After 40 years in Jamaica with a home and two adopted children it's possible that I have a different perspective.

Your perspective is appropriate for you.

How is my perspective different from yours? What is your perspective? That people should be charged twice for service?

Do you really believe restaurants shouldn't pay their employees fairly and charge accordingly?

I run three businesses in the US and we take care of our employees, a lot of business owners don't in the states and their sales inevitably suffer.

Turning to the government to mandate customers pay the employees properly is a cop out for a business owner.

[captaind]

How is my perspective different from yours? What is your perspective? That people should be charged twice for service?

Do you really believe restaurants shouldn't pay their employees fairly and charge accordingly?

I run three businesses in the US and we take care of our employees, a lot of business owners don't in the states and their sales inevitably suffer.

Turning to the government to mandate customers pay the employees properly is a cop out for a business owner.

At 70 I've reached the point where dollars aren't that important. I feel blessed to be able to do what I can.

My perspective is "Lord let me help where I can and not try to change that which I cannot... and the wisdom to know the difference"