Negril Beach Club - What's Going on ???

[Rob]

Folks - please be aware that the links posted by Gwhizman are 4 and 5 years old....

[Yvonne]

Thank you, Rob. Raz is still a major player when it comes to what is going on at the Beach Club, just in different ways. I prefer not to post on the board - also busy as heck - so would prefer to answer via e-mail. Please e-mail me directly, not via PM... too techie for me. You will NOT get a response there these days. My life is already complicated enough which is why I seldom post. It may take a few days but bear w/ me. I'm not really retired in my retirement. ykreedfla@aol.com Thank you. Your patience is appreciated.

[Yvonne]

A little bit of info. No idea why TS weeks are not being honored. The last year for use is 2017. RCI dropped their affiliation several years ago... only deal w/ 4-5 star properties is what I heard. The TS/NIOC office was moved so their previous location off the lobby could be rented out to an outside business to generate more income for the hotel. Raz is pretty much in control of NIOC - not just the hotel - so does book TS rooms for bookings the hotel gets online. I understand that if an owner does not pay fees in advance & does not confirm their dates, their unit may not be available. This was the case when I was there in Feb (stayed in one of the NBCC rooms then, not NIOC/TS room). I always confirm dates & pay in advance so never an issue for me. Lee... I have no clue why your weeks weren't honored. Nadine would be the one to ask. So much more but not going to post it here.

[debthediver]

I had a room reservation this past Feb. However when I arrived I was told it was full and no room for me I did receive a refund however this did leave me with a bad taste for this location.

[Jamerican71]

I had a room reservation this past Feb. However when I arrived I was told it was full and no room for me I did receive a refund however this did leave me with a bad taste for this location.

I can totally understand you feeling like this as I too would be ticked so rather than not go there again, next time rent through Jean Gaynair. I was a timeshare owner but now always book through Jean. Jean and her staff will ensure that your vacation is without any hassles and your room will be ready and waiting!

[Rambo]

Jean is a nice woman...last time we stayed there I sent her $100.00 deposit which we normally don't do.......and it was a few months ahead...I had completely forgotten it.........on our last day Jean sent for me....as I walked up to her office she handed me a US 100 !!!!..with a smile and said "Hurry Back"

NOW THATS A HONEST PERSON!

[luvjabd]

I haven't been on the board for months....how ironic I come back to this thread.

[Yvonne]

OK, here goes. Beach Club info from an e-mail to some boardies here, a bit edited. Facts plus, where noted, my opinion. There may be some duplication of info I posted earlier although I tried to edit out most of that. I have removed some names & left out some info that was in the e-mail. I feel for Jean who is a wonderful person, an honest business woman, & who operates a great business at NBCC. I would not hesitate to stay w/ her when my timeshares are used. I aready stay there when it's not my TS time, have for years. What follows pertains to the hotel & timeshares, not NBCC. Considering this is what has been going on, NBCC continues to operate professionally & to have many happy repeat customers.

Raz Ofer seems to want to take over the whole property - impossible due to many individual owners - & has been "ruling" the hotel & NIOC by intimidation (my opinion). True, no more TS are being sold but they are honoring those owned as long as the fees are paid in advance. The last year for use is 2017. In addition to renting out TS rooms, Raz also overbooks & then sends guests up to the rat hole Caribbean Sunset Resort in town. Lots of pissed off people when I was there in Feb for a variety of reasons.
Raz Ofer... IMHO he is destroying the property &/or allowing it to go down the tubes. Since he took over he has not paid any Strata fees (think condo fees). He rents his rooms cheap, rents out TS rooms (gets more $$$ that way than having the TS owner pay fees, esp. in high season), then pockets the $$$. I know there is legal action re: Strata fees but the wheels of justice turn slowly. Raz has a cousin who "runs" the hotel/NIOC for him/does his bidding. The property was tiefing current earlier this year (caught in March or April). They had to pay 6 months of owed bills before the power was allowed to be turned on. While that was being resolved, they rented a generator to run the property & that was seized because they weren't paying the bill!!! Don't know how the electric bill was paid. The monthly fees for condo owners have increased drastically as have our TS maintenance fees... all thanks to Raz paying NOTHING!!! Other businesses on the property, as of summer, owe LOTS of $$$ in back rent. Not paying bills seems to be accepted, espec. by Raz since he doesn't pay his either. It's a hot mess.
The no $$$ being put into the property is because of Raz. Help is routinely "on rotation" (laid off), only given 3-4 days of work per week, one housekeeper daily even during high season (usually 3), etc. It sucks for the workers. The property is not kept up because Ofer does NOT care. He only wants the $$$.

[mn negril fan]

Thanks for the update Yvonne

[Jamerican71]

I feel for Jean who is a wonderful person, an honest business woman, & who operates a great business at NBCC. I would not hesitate to stay w/ her when my timeshares are used. I aready stay there when it's not my TS time, have for years. What follows pertains to the hotel & timeshares, not NBCC. Considering this is what has been going on, NBCC continues to operate professionally & to have many happy repeat customers.

There is no question that I 100% agree with your post!! I have only had positive experiences on every vacation to NBCC and it has always been my one and only choice property. I am loyal to NBCC but my concerns are now extremely high - NOT with NBCC but with the overall property in general.

While anybody who rents from Jean can be certain that they will have a confirmed reservation and a clean unit but what about the shared facilities (grounds, restaurant/bar and security)?? Obviously, hands are tied but as a condo renter who enjoys the entire property and not just my unit, I noticed a drastic negative change in the upkeep of the property from my Nov 2011 trip to my Dec/Jan 2011/2012 trip to my most recent trip in August 2012. I now understand better why this is happening but it does not alleviate my concerns. It's also sad that some of those laid off are my friends - when I was first told by them, I assumed they were laid off b/c of the slow season but as more info has been revealed to them and to us, it's now a fact that Raz just isn't paying Strata who now can't pay their employees. This isn't NBCC fault at all, but they are and have been affected by this.

What is the solution to his strong arm tactics and Raz just wanting the money? What confirmations can be made to condo renters that we will have electricity and water, a clean beach, that we can feel secure with a security team, that we will be able to go to the restaurant or bar for food/drinks?

I really hope this is resolved soon....