Negril Beach Club - What's Going on ???

[Yvonne]

lets hope it gets straightened out, and heading the straight and narrow, hate to see another fine "old" friend die away........
wonderful memories there, a lot of great employes over the years....

Very true, Rambo. That's why I keep hanging in there. It's a great property w/ a great location & staff... both NBCC & the timeshare/hotel side. Part of its charm is the vibe of being a long time entity on Negril's beautiful beach. I enjoy the many, many positives of the Beach Club, live w/ the other stuff. Since I have many friends who work there or live in the condos there, also because my stays are fairly long, it's hard NOT to see & know what is going on. As long as the property is in business, that's where I'll be.

I'm still curious about the lack of response to the request of TS use. That's never been an issue for me, perhaps because of my long stays for many years. I even get phone calls from there if there's a question, as well as e-mails promptly (1-2 days :-) answered. If anything, I wish I could spend MORE time there but life doesn't allow that luxury at this point in time.

[irienegril]

thanks for the info yvonne. Fourty trips to the beach club. 39 of them with Jean. i hope all is resolved with the jerk. Had one dealing through the hotel last year and it was horrific. We love Jean like family. We are her biggest fans

[Jamerican71]

I feel for Jean who is a wonderful person, an honest business woman, & who operates a great business at NBCC. I would not hesitate to stay w/ her when my timeshares are used. I aready stay there when it's not my TS time, have for years. What follows pertains to the hotel & timeshares, not NBCC. Considering this is what has been going on, NBCC continues to operate professionally & to have many happy repeat customers.

There is no question that I 100% agree with your post!! I have only had positive experiences on every vacation to NBCC and it has always been my one and only choice property. I am loyal to NBCC but my concerns are now extremely high - NOT with NBCC but with the overall property in general.

While anybody who rents from Jean can be certain that they will have a confirmed reservation and a clean unit but what about the shared facilities (grounds, restaurant/bar and security)?? Obviously, hands are tied but as a condo renter who enjoys the entire property and not just my unit, I noticed a drastic negative change in the upkeep of the property from my Nov 2011 trip to my Dec/Jan 2011/2012 trip to my most recent trip in August 2012. I now understand better why this is happening but it does not alleviate my concerns. It's also sad that some of those laid off are my friends - when I was first told by them, I assumed they were laid off b/c of the slow season but as more info has been revealed to them and to us, it's now a fact that Raz just isn't paying Strata who now can't pay their employees. This isn't NBCC fault at all, but they are and have been affected by this.

What is the solution to his strong arm tactics and Raz just wanting the money? What confirmations can be made to condo renters that we will have electricity and water, a clean beach, that we can feel secure with a security team, that we will be able to go to the restaurant or bar for food/drinks?

I really hope this is resolved soon....

[Jamerican71]

"Ofer pleaded guilty [in July 2009] to grand larceny and faces up to 25 years in prison unless he pays the taxes plus half a million dollars in interest and penalties." http://www.nypost.com/p/news/regiona...61oT5tPM....an old article but speaks volumes to this man's character

How in the world did he get involved with the purchase of his shares of Negril Beach Club resort?? What are his plans for the property knowing that he cannot take over the condos. I just remembered I met a couple in Dec/Jan who were owners of a condo and had been for years. When Raz got involved he tried his strong arm tactics with getting them to sell. They basically told him to go to H-E-double hockey sticks.

[Yvonne]

"Ofer pleaded guilty [in July 2009] to grand larceny and faces up to 25 years in prison unless he pays the taxes plus half a million dollars in interest and penalties." http://www.nypost.com/p/news/regiona...61oT5tPM....an old article but speaks volumes to this man's character

How in the world did he get involved with the purchase of his shares of Negril Beach Club resort?? What are his plans for the property knowing that he cannot take over the condos. I just remembered I met a couple in Dec/Jan who were owners of a condo and had been for years. When Raz got involved he tried his strong arm tactics with getting them to sell. They basically told him to go to H-E-double hockey sticks.

How did he get involved? Great question. All I heard from the previous management is that he comes from one of the wealthiest families in Israel. OK. So what? Had they done a Google search they could have learned his vacation rentals are scams & he's a bad guy to deal w/ financially. They just wanted out & apparently didn't do any background check on the guy. No integrity, obvious con man. Strong arm tactics... very true. He will NOT take no for an answer. Apparently he thought he was getting the whole property in the deal & that's what he wants, everything. Somehow he's managed to get hold of NIOC. Individually owned condos... that's a lot of people he's going to have to break down. Hmmmmm... maybe that's part of his plan in not paying the Strata fees. Just thought of that possibility. Break the owners down financially. Still, he'll have dozens of units he'd have to purchase. I have no idea where this mess is going or how it will play out in the long run. Sad that it's been allowed to go on this long. I really feel for my friends who work there. They barely make enough to take a taxi back & forth to work. Then there's rent, food, school fees, clothing for their children, etc., etc.

[lee]

Thanks Yvonne. Its. Monday Sept 10. 2012 I still have heard nothing back from my multiple e-mails. This has left me wondering if the previously honored FLEXing of my week FROM 2012 March is down the tubes - despite my having walked over there in February and paid them in person.

Very true, Rambo. That's why I keep hanging in there. It's a great property w/ a great location & staff... both NBCC & the timeshare/hotel side. Part of its charm is the vibe of being a long time entity on Negril's beautiful beach. I enjoy the many, many positives of the Beach Club, live w/ the other stuff. Since I have many friends who work there or live in the condos there, also because my stays are fairly long, it's hard NOT to see & know what is going on. As long as the property is in business, that's where I'll be.

I'm still curious about the lack of response to the request of TS use. That's never been an issue for me, perhaps because of my long stays for many years. I even get phone calls from there if there's a question, as well as e-mails promptly (1-2 days :-) answered. If anything, I wish I could spend MORE time there but life doesn't allow that luxury at this point in time.

[lee]

At 1:46 today I received a first unsigned e-mail response from negrilinterval@cwjamaica.com stating they " would check availability and get back to me". I immediately responded within about 5 minutes and asked " with whom I was dialoguing?" and no one answered back as of yet ( 4:4pm)

I e-mailed in June asking to use my timeshare in August and received a reply back that the hotel/timeshare was fully booked the entire month of July and August. Upon arrival I paid a visit to the hotel daily and never saw more than 10-12 people on the property. I asked at the front desk and the staff acknowledged they were no were near booked and had no explanation as to why I was told this. I have since arrived home and found the e-mail received in June, and forwarded it to the e-mail address of years and have yet to receive a response or a reply to a new request for March 2013. Does anyone know what's going on?

[Yvonne]

Lee... be persistent! Seriously, call, e-mail & don't let up. Try e-mailing Nadine in the subject line, that way you'll know who you're corresponding with. Ask for a phone # so you can call her. The # previously posted is the last one I have. I also have Nadine's personal cell # but don't feel comfortable giving it out. Hang in there!

[lee]

Oh I will. I've had this timeshare now 19 years used to this kind of thing every so often.

Lee... be persistent! Seriously, call, e-mail & don't let up. Try e-mailing Nadine in the subject line, that way you'll know who you're corresponding with. Ask for a phone # so you can call her. The # previously posted is the last one I have. I also have Nadine's personal cell # but don't feel comfortable giving it out. Hang in there!

[lee]

Got to be fair. I HAVE received a response to my request for 2013 over the weekend (from Nadine ). Sorry but no response as to why I was told the place was fully booked in August when it was not full, so I cannot provide closure there.

I e-mailed in June asking to use my timeshare in August and received a reply back that the hotel/timeshare was fully booked the entire month of July and August. Upon arrival I paid a visit to the hotel daily and never saw more than 10-12 people on the property. I asked at the front desk and the staff acknowledged they were no were near booked and had no explanation as to why I was told this. I have since arrived home and found the e-mail received in June, and forwarded it to the e-mail address of years and have yet to receive a response or a reply to a new request for March 2013. Does anyone know what's going on?