Samsara?

[brihinds]

As has been stated here previously the Negril Beach is an extremely fragile environment surrounded by two rivers, the morass, and the sea. It is a island in and of itself. Yes, it has changed dramatically over the years. Partly because of the loss of trees that held the ecosystem together and the massive amounts of concerted that are now there. Nature has also taken it's course. My late husband's Mother Miss Ella had property by the craft market which is no longer there. It is now under water. If you look at the beach when 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea was filmed you will see a totally different environment. It was my Husband's and even his children's playground. There is a reason many of the old timers chose not to live on the beach. I am sure the stories of tsunami' s being passed from generation to generation was one of the reasons. As Bob said "No One Can Control the Time." And nature will take it's toll as has been evidenced globally all over the planet.



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[Patricia]

Nice pic Rob

[Big_frank]

The ever-changing 7 mile beach.

[captaind]

Ed,

I worked on that beach at Cosmo's and Sands Club for eight years from 79 - 86

I watched the sand come and go. That beach is supported by the morass and balances the pressure of the sea with the flow of fresh water coming from the hills.

It's always in a state of flux.

It's not the beach I first saw in 1969 but it's still there and a certain ways still the same.

You know if you don't like it you don't have to come.

Myself, I live in the hills

[ed kennedy]

the picture is NOT a true representation of the beach when occupied.....almost appears staged for a shot.....Legends lost its beach many years ago and during the say when the samsara folks come down along with other stragglers it is extremely crowded and unpleasant for those who want a little relaxation...this opinion is offered by someone who has beenthere and has no financial interest in promoting the place

[Rob]

Ed,

Thank you for accusing me of lying and deceiving people. But unfortunately you are simply wrong on this one man.

One of the advantages of living here is that I can correct misinformation in a timely fashion. The picture is not staged, but an exact, accurate and truthful view of the beach yesterday morning.

I think that your opinion that you seem to be confusing with a fact is based on the limited time you have "beenthere". Beach sand everywhere on the planet comes and goes, one of the bases for the term "shifting sands".

I have "been there" daily for 20 years now, and yes, there are times when the sea is rough that it can roll up higher on the beach, but from a 365 day year standpoint over 20 years of daily experience, they are fairly rare occasions. It happens mostly when the winds blow strong churning up the Caribbean. But to categorize it as "what beach remains is just flooded during the day" and "Legends lost its beach many years ago" is clearly inaccurate.

While Legends, Kuyaba and Tamboo may not have the widest stretch of beach in Negril, there is clearly a substantial amount of beach there now as the un-staged photo shows.

Negril.com was created in 1995 to provide a place where visitors to the island can find the best, most accurate, most helpful and useful information available anywhere. Our credibility is based on that premise. Negril.com does not allow anyone to use the site to deceive, and that would also include the businesses in Negril, myself or any of our Negril.com staff. That includes you too Ed...

But it is interesting to note that you mention the loungers are filled during the day. Maybe that is because people enjoy the beach there at Legends. The folks from Samsara and Legends are both free to stroll the beach and go where ever they choose. But people do tend to frequent places they enjoy...

[ed kennedy]

if you enjoy being packed in like sardines, and like mediocre food and drink, by all means go......you can go as well Rob...relax on the lounge chair.....surrounded by fellow sardines

[Rob]

Ed,

When we vacation on the island, we tend to head to Kingston. Love that town!

[ed kennedy]

so Rob...tell me...ever chill out on one of these lounge chairs at legends for the day? and in America, BTW, we spend time in NYC....we know what we are going for....

[Rob]

Ed,

To be honest, it seems that I am always "on the clock" when in Negril, which only makes sense since I started Negril.com and the internet never sleeps. Someone is always asking about some help with their websites or on how best to market their business so to simply "chill out" anywhere on the main beach is really not a luxury that I have at my disposal as I did when I was visiting Negril about 30 years ago.

But having spent literally hundreds if not thousands of hours at Samsara, Legends, Kuyaba and Tamboo for that matter over the last 20 years, I am keenly aware of aspects at all these properties as I am with virtually all the businesses in Negril. That happens naturally when you live in a place and make it your home.

Ed - enough is enough man. You already stated it, you get what you pay for and if you somehow misunderstood the bargain deal you were getting or had a bad travel agent, well, sorry about that. But that doesn't change the fact that there are repeat visitors that swear by Samsara and Legends so your negative opinion of them is just that, your opinion.

The fact of the matter is that Legends did not lose their beach years ago and that it does not flood every day. They have a beautiful beach as shown in yesterday's photo.